The SINE QUA NON |
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:32:28 +0800
From: IASA Safety<safety@iasa.com.au>
To: PEddyXX@aol.com, Ader <ader@compuserve.com>
CC: Edward Block <EdwBlock@aol.com>, JOHNDKING King <jking1@mediaone.net>,
Patrick Price <PAPCECST@aol.com>
References: 1
Paul http://www.kjsl.com/~chrisw/md11.html This site mentions rental of an MD-11 simulator at $900 an hour. American Delta Fedex These three CONUS airlines still fly the MD-11. Many of the crewing companies have MD11 crews on their books. However, because the catastrophic malfunction is likely to have been as a result of a wiring short that occurred in concert with a Smk/Elec/Air switch selection, I'm NOT sure that it would be possible to reproduce that fateful combination in a simulator - in particular without the IFE wired in as a heavy drag upon AC2. I note that in an article I read on the NET about MD-11 despatch reliability (FEDEX I think) the main discrepancy most of the time was the "battery charger". This strange anomaly ties in with my theory that a combination of the dead short and switching of the SMK/ELEC/AIR switch plus the fuel-starvation flame-out of #2 engine (can't gravity feed) suddenly put them from two generators down to one (when #2 flamed out). Switching Gens under an incredibly high shorting load is likely to cause the one you're switching (to) NOT to come on line (due feeder-fault, overvoltage, under-frequency etc etc). They are very sensitively monitored and deliberately tripped by the system if their parameters are even slightly amiss. The effect of that solo GEN not coming on line might mean that the whole normal and shorting load is then upon the battery (which is only good for 15 minutes under a reduced load). I think that as soon as that trip happened the BATT CB's (or charger) blew and an accident on a dark night, facing the ocean, was inevitable. Paul, I think you'd be better off getting hold of a KLM electrician (perhaps through Art) and trying to validate that theory (or a variation upon that theme). He would also be able to advise about the likely effect of the shorting out of the bus-tie sensing relay. It's a real lynch-pin (and therefore the vulnerable weak link). My gut feeling is that the elaborate design of the MD-11 electrical system (particularly the bus-tie relays) was just not able to cope with the shorting happenstance. The checklist and the design of the trouble-shooting system is oriented around singular system or component failures - not general wiring calamities. Therein lies the Achille's Heel of all electric jets - once they start coming unglued, the SOP crew trouble-shooting is just looking for more trouble... and usually they find it.. "GLOSSARY Ticking fault: An intermittent metal-to-metal event (conductor-to-conductor, conductor-to structure, etc.) that results in the discharge of sparks and arcing events." Induced current flow is a known phenomena but more simply, electricity moving arbitrarily from one wiring circuit to another's (due to cracked and chafed insulation) was obviously never considered by designers (nor logically, could it be). As the FAA has said: 'wire is wire'. But such miswiring in the human brain is called an epileptic fit. Do I hear you venture that a completely separate standalone, fall-back, get-you-home Virgin Bus is once again the solution? If you could deploy the ADG, activate that bus and so have the necessary systems and instrumentation (whilst at the same time killing the power and therefore the fire/smoke on all Normal busses) you're guaranteeing a survivable outcome. Methinks it's really the only way to go in future - Kapton or no Kapton. In order to ensure survivability, operators must toss aside the old trouble-shooting checklists and designers must give the crews (and pax) an escape route that has the certitude of an insular, standby, standalone system. Without that sea-change in attitudes, crews and passengers are entering a new era of miscalculated risk - with or without Kapton in the equation. With 260 kms of wiring and numerous duplicated components in modern airliner's electrical systems it would be foolish to consider that integrity revolves around redundancy. Duplication, triplication and automatic sensing and switching just trebles the risk. When the chips were down for SR111, redundancy and smart auto-switching meant nothing. Developments were always likely to be non-plussing and continued operation of the electrical system meant that the situation had to deteriorate rapidly -which it did. The older generation of jets wasn't really anywhere near as reliant upon electrics as in the glass cockpits of today. The thought of losing all electrics in SR111 was totally horrifying to the Swissair Chief Pilot (Hiltebrand)...and rightly so. The reality is that the extent of total electronic and computer dependence means that an escape-route backup system is an essential safety net. The general wisdom now is to get the aircraft on the ground ASAP. Well that advice is a fat lot of good if you're mid-ocean and hours from the nearest suitable airport. Going on the instances that we know about, another mystifying crash, perhaps without the possibility of salvage, would be on the cards. When you consider that aspect, in a two-man cockpit the Virgin Bus is a "sine qua non" of safety, security and passenger reassurance. John Sampson |
PEddyXX@aol.com wrote:
> Dear John:
>
> Re your note to Art on IFT:
>
> As I've told Art in a message (see below), I am VERY interested in IFT and
> the Swissair deal. It is no problem that I live on the wrong side of the
> Atlantic. I get on planes all of the time!
>
> In short, I'm interested in anything you know or learn about IFT.
>
> I've also asked John King for his thoughts on trying to replecate the
> differing scenarios on an MD11 simulator (also see below). Please let me know
> what you think.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
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> COPY 1:
> Dear Art:
>
> Thanks for copying me on your note re IFT.
>
> I am interested in anything and everything about this company and the deal with Swissair.
> Meanwhile, re the other carriers mentioned in your note:
> I don't know anything about Oasis International in Madrid, though I will find out.
> Debonair Airlines is a small start-up carrier operating out of Luton Airport
> (north of London) - one of many "regional" outfits taking advantage of the
> new, so-called "open skies" policy in the European Union. It has a fleet of
> eight British Aerospace 146-100s flying short-haul routes to Paris, Madrid,
> Rome, Barcelona, Monchengladbach and Munich. It also operates feeder services
> out of Luton to Paris and Brussels on behalf of Air France.
> It is a "low cost" operator that loses money and seems to me to be under-
> financed. Though it has not yet issued audited accounts, I believe that it has
> lost about £33 million since it started operating. The losses are now falling
> (to, I think, around £5m a year) but I don't think it is any position to
> finance the purchase of a "sophisticated" IFT system - if, that is, it's true
> that Swissair spent $70-$80 million on its IFT systems, as reported by the
> Washington Post.
>
> Anyway, Debonair is a public company, so I have asked it for an account of its
> dealings with IFT, and I'll let you know what they say.
>
> Meanwhile, I would be grateful for anything more you know about IFT and the
> people who were behind it.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
> COPY 2:
> jking1@mediaone.net
> Dear John:
>
> Thanks for your note. Yes, I do have the Cahill reports - actually, thanks to
> you - and I used excerpts from one of them in an article I wrote for the
> Sunday Times newspaper (as opposed to the magazine) after SR111. I have also
> read the cargo door theory re TW800. What I don't quite buy is why that would
> have the caused the instant loss of communication and data recording. After
> all, we've seem cargo doors open before (most notoriously in the DC-10s over
> Windsor and then Paris) without that result.
>
> Concentrating on SR111, at least for the moment, I have a question. Is it
> plausible that any or all of the scenarios you all have postulated could be
> replicated on an MD11 simulator?
>
> If so, I have it in mind to try and persuade the Sunday Times Magazine to rent
> a simulator for a few hours - assuming, that is, I can find someone willing to
> rent me one, and an experieenced MD11 crew to fly it.
>
> I am aware there is a risk this would be seen as highly sensational - and I
> try and steer clear of that kind of reporting. On the other hand, it seems to
> me that it could force the indusstry/regulators to pay attention if the
> replication came anywhere close to reproducing the results we saw with SR11.
>
> So, in fact, three questions:
>
> 1. Is it plausible to replicate the events on a simulator?
> 2. If so, do you know where I could find a sim to rent?
> 3. If so, do you have any thoughts on where I might find an expeerienced crew
> willing to fly it? They can remain anonymous if they wish.
> I would appreciate your thoughts. Many thanks.
> Paul
> ENDS