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001 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - .pdf file
002 - Lawrence Ladao <lnl5000@y - Re: OMIGOD!
003 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Re: OMIGOD!
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: .pdf file
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 14:34:13 +0100
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I've been downloading this .pdf file
(http://www.ccc.govt.nz/Library/Kete/ParkerHulme/ParkerHulme.pdf) for
hours, it does open in Acrobat Reader...but the printer refuses to print
anything out...postscript errors...
Does anyone know what to do? I really want to have these pages...
Thank you,
Marloes
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From: Lawrence Ladao <lnl5000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OMIGOD!
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 22:23:54 -0800 (PST)
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Well, while you're waiting for the tape to come out, you can get a
quick Melanie fix here:
http://www.forcor.com/makeup/mel.html
I don't know how many of you have already seen these, but I thought
I'd mention them. She has blossomed into quite a beauty hasn't she.
---Alisha wrote:
>
> Hey guys!
>
> Okay, so I just got back from seeing 'Ever After...' Melanie was
> *fantastic*. She seriously outshone everyone else. Her accent was so
cute,
> too! I'll definitely be buying this when it comes out, just for
Melanie
> alone.
>
> That's all!
>
> Alisha
> xoxox
>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: OMIGOD!
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 09:26:41 +0100
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Lawrence Ladao wrote:
>
> Well, while you're waiting for the tape to come out, you can get a
> quick Melanie fix here:
>
> http://www.forcor.com/makeup/mel.html
>
> I don't know how many of you have already seen these, but I thought
> I'd mention them. She has blossomed into quite a beauty hasn't she.
I saw these about two weeks ago...and I must agree with you! (-:
Marloes
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n972 --------------
001 - Adit <adit@main.aquanet.c - cheer me up
002 - Adit <adit@main.aquanet.c - cheer me up
003 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Re: cheer me up
004 - joseph <cherian@giasbmc.v - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n970
005 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - sorta OT: HC question
006 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Celebrity Style
007 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - review
008 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Re: review
009 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (jeroen) - Re: Celebrity Style
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From: Adit <adit@main.aquanet.co.il>
Subject: cheer me up
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:38:40 +0200
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Hi!
Yesterday I was sick, and because I couldn't get up from bed I just
watched HC. It was really great. But later I wanted to record the
chapter of Dawson's Creek (if you know what it is) and I asked my
brother to change the cassette. He accidentally put the HC video back in
the VCR instead of another cassette, and then I found out- I don't have
Heavenly Creatures anymore! I can't watch that wonderful, beautiful
movie again until the movies channel will think about showing it again.
I am so depressed! Wouldn't you be???????????? Please, try to cheer me
up!!!!
-Adit
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From: Adit <adit@main.aquanet.co.il>
Subject: cheer me up
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:39:55 +0200
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Hi!
Yesterday I was sick, and because I couldn't get up from bed I just
watched HC. It was really great. But later I wanted to record the
chapter of Dawson's Creek (if you know what it is) and I asked my
brother to change the cassette. He accidentally put the HC video back in
the VCR instead of another cassette, and then I found out- I don't have
Heavenly Creatures anymore! I can't watch that wonderful, beautiful
movie again until the movies channel will think about showing it again.
I am so depressed! Wouldn't you be???????????? Please, try to cheer me
up!!!!
-Adit
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: cheer me up
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 15:12:12 +0100
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Adit wrote:
> I don't have
> Heavenly Creatures anymore! I can't watch that wonderful, beautiful
> movie again until the movies channel will think about showing it
again.
> I am so depressed! Wouldn't you be???????????? Please, try to cheer me
> up!!!!
> -Adit
Awwwwwww!!!! I'm sorry to hear that girl! Guys and technical stuff...*s*
(not trying to be funny, just cheering you up). Is there no way you
could buy the video somewhere?
Marloes
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From: joseph <cherian@giasbmc.vsnl.net.in>
Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n970
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 15:59:12 +0530
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Unsubscribe me from this list. This is the third time i am writing this.
heavenly-c-errors@lists.best.com wrote:
> -------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n970 --------------
>
> 001 - hanna bervoets <hanna-b@d - Re: Database update and new book
> 002 - "M. Charles Frappier" <mc - Re: Database update and new book
> 003 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - S&S
> 004 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - celebrity style
> 005 - "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo - About S&S
> 006 - "M. Charles Frappier" <mc - Re: About S&S
> 007 - joseph <cherian@giasbmc.v - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n969
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.1 ---------------
>
> From: hanna bervoets <hanna-b@dds.nl>
> Subject: Re: Database update and new book
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 18:08:23 +0100
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> At 09:18 25-10-98 +0100, you wrote:
>
> >
> >I watched S&S yesterday...wonderful! I'm slowly getting by on my
> >Kate-films!
> >
> >Take care,
> >Marloes
> >
>
> That's funny; I also watched S&S yesterday! It was the first time I
saw it
> and I liked it a lot! Now I only need to see Jude and then I've seen
all
> Kate movies I believe..
>
> BTW: for those who are interested; there's a pretty good pic of
Melanie from
> "Ever after" in this USA mag. called "Celebrity style" ,or something
like
> that.[Maybe this is old "news" but I just found out..]
>
> Hanna
> -hanna-b@dds.nl-
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.2 ---------------
>
> From: "M. Charles Frappier" <mc@oil.ca>
> Subject: Re: Database update and new book
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 13:33:40 -0500
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> I swear I'm not making this up:
>
> I bought Sense and Sensibility and watched it for the first time on
Friday.
>
> That is soo weird.
>
> Charles
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: hanna bervoets <hanna-b@dds.nl>
> To: heavenly-c@lists.best.com <heavenly-c@lists.best.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 11:31 AM
> Subject: Re: Database update and new book
>
> >At 09:18 25-10-98 +0100, you wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>I watched S&S yesterday...wonderful! I'm slowly getting by on my
> >>Kate-films!
> >>
> >>Take care,
> >>Marloes
> >>
> >
> >That's funny; I also watched S&S yesterday! It was the first time I
saw it
> >and I liked it a lot! Now I only need to see Jude and then I've seen
all
> >Kate movies I believe..
> >
> >BTW: for those who are interested; there's a pretty good pic of
Melanie
> from
> >"Ever after" in this USA mag. called "Celebrity style" ,or something
like
> >that.[Maybe this is old "news" but I just found out..]
> >
> >Hanna
> >-hanna-b@dds.nl-
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.3 ---------------
>
> From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
> Subject: S&S
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:22:59 +0100
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> References: <199810242225.PAA03587@lists1.best.com>
>
> M. Charles Frappier wrote:
> >
> > I swear I'm not making this up:
> >
> > I bought Sense and Sensibility and watched it for the first time on
Friday.
> >
> > That is soo weird.
>
> HA!! They say great minds think alike...I'll keep it at that. *smiles*
>
> Marloes
>
> --
> I'm so aware of where I am,
> but I don't know where that is
>
> Believe, K's Choice
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.4 ---------------
>
> From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
> Subject: celebrity style
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 21:21:27 +0100
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> References: <199810251711.JAA16556@lists1.best.com>
>
> hanna bervoets wrote:
>
> > That's funny; I also watched S&S yesterday! It was the first time I
saw it
> > and I liked it a lot! Now I only need to see Jude and then I've
seen all
> > Kate movies I believe..
>
> Well, you've saved the best for last! btw, if you try to locate Jude I
> think it's best if you look at the import-film. The Dutch version is
> probably not out yet and subtitles are irritating anyways...
>
> > BTW: for those who are interested; there's a pretty good pic of
Melanie from
> > "Ever after" in this USA mag. called "Celebrity style" ,or
something like
> > that.[Maybe this is old "news" but I just found out..]
>
> Is there a possiblilty that you scan it? Hmm...never mind, I'll try to
> buy the magazine tomorrow...*s* Thanx for the info!
>
> bye,
> Marloes
>
> --
> I'm so aware of where I am,
> but I don't know where that is
>
> Believe, K's Choice
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.5 ---------------
>
> From: "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo" <jabad@softtek.com>
> Subject: About S&S
> Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 22:52:29 -0600
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> References: <199810251837.KAA17904@lists1.best.com>
>
> M. Charles Frappier wrote:
> >
> > I swear I'm not making this up:
> >
> > I bought Sense and Sensibility and watched it for the first time on
Friday.
> >
> > That is soo weird.
> >
> > Charles
>
> Hi there creatures!
>
> That is not weird Charles! I have all the Kate's movies and the great
> part of it is that I saw all of them with my wife and she actually
liked
> them even though she thinks that I'm in love with Kate and not with
her.
> :) The only movie I saw alone was A Kid in Kings...
>
> Thanks for reading
>
> José Antonio
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------
> |
> |
> | Cuanto mas grande la cabeza, mas fuerte la jaqueca. |
> | The bigger the head, the bigger the headache |
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.6 ---------------
>
> From: "M. Charles Frappier" <mc@oil.ca>
> Subject: Re: About S&S
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 00:05:03 -0500
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="iso-8859-1"
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>
> My wife watched it with me and made only ONE small comment:
>
> "I suppose you want me to call you Colonel from now on?"
>
> Charles
>
> ;)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jose Antonio Abad Trillo <jabad@softtek.com>
> To: heavenly-c@lists.best.com <heavenly-c@lists.best.com>
> Date: Sunday, October 25, 1998 11:09 PM
> Subject: About S&S
>
> >M. Charles Frappier wrote:
> >>
> >> I swear I'm not making this up:
> >>
> >> I bought Sense and Sensibility and watched it for the first time on
> Friday.
> >>
> >> That is soo weird.
> >>
> >> Charles
> >
> >Hi there creatures!
> >
> >That is not weird Charles! I have all the Kate's movies and the
great
> >part of it is that I saw all of them with my wife and she actually
liked
> >them even though she thinks that I'm in love with Kate and not with
her.
> >:) The only movie I saw alone was A Kid in Kings...
> >
> >Thanks for reading
> >
> >José Antonio
> >--
> >------------------------------------------------------
> >|
> >|
> >| Cuanto mas grande la cabeza, mas fuerte la jaqueca. |
> >| The bigger the head, the bigger the headache
|
> >------------------------------------------------------
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n970.7 ---------------
>
> From: joseph <cherian@giasbmc.vsnl.net.in>
> Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n969
> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 13:40:05 +0530
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> References: <199810251605.IAA24135@lists1.best.com>
>
> Unsubscribe Me from this List.
>
> heavenly-c-errors@lists.best.com wrote:
>
> > -------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n969 --------------
> >
> > 001 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - old emails
> > 002 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Database update and new book
> > 003 - "M. Charles Frappier" <mc - Re: Database update and new
book
> > 004 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - Re: Database update and new
book
> > 005 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Database update and new
book
> > 006 - "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinte - OMIGOD!
> >
> > --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n969.1 ---------------
> >
> > From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
> > Subject: old emails
> > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 1998 17:07:22 +0200
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > References: <199809091912.MAA27774@lists1.best.com>
<199809100851.BAA18505@lists1.best.com>
> >
> > Am I the only one receiving old contribution to this list?
> >
> > Yesterday I got this one:
> >
> > ***
> > In a message dated 9/9/98 9:50:19 AM Central Daylight Time,
> > adit@main.aquanet.co.il writes:
> >
> > << The director of "Titanic", James Cameron doesn't want to take any
> > risks.
> > That's why he asked the cast of his Oscar loaded film to play in
his
> > new
> > movie. Leonardo Dicaprio and Kate Winslet will have the main roles
in a
> > new version for the classic "The Star Of Monkeys" (I'm not sure
this is
> > its name in English). Its still unknown whether Winslet and
Dicaprio
> > will play people or monkeys...
> > >>
> >
> > Well, there has been a rumor that Cameron was going to remake
Planet of
> > the
> > Apes with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the Charlton Heston role, and
maybe
> > that's
> > where the 'Star of Monkeys' is coming from. And Kate has said in
public
> > interviews that the only way she would work for Cameron again is if
she
> > got A
> > LOT of money.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > ****
> >
> > And today I received this:
> >
> > *****
> >
> > On Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:10:24 -0400 (EDT), crystal
<beckwith@Oswego.EDU>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >A fellow listmate from the Kate Winslet Hotline list is writing a
letter
> > >to Miramax about a possible rerelease of Heavenly Creatures that
includes
> > >all the original content. She has asked me to forward it on to all
of you
> >
> > I'm no expert on this, but why is this letter addressed to miramax?
I
> > mean they only have the rights for US distribution and nothing else.
> > What i'm trying to say is that the message could just as well have
> > been addressed to any other distributor hoping they will release the
> > NZ cut, right?
> >
> > Wasn't there a rumour a while ago that criterion was going to
release
> > the SE on laserdisc with commentary etc?
> >
> > In fact i hate to see miramax release HC on dvd, as i'm sure they
will
> > fuck it up big time like all other disney dvd's: no extra's and not
> > 16:9 enhanced.
> >
> > ****
> >
> > Pretty strange...hmmm?
> >
> > Marloes
> >
> > --
> > I'm so aware of where I am,
> > but I don't know where that is
> >
> > Believe, K's Choice
> >
> > --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n969.2 ---------------
> >
> > From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
> > Subject: Database update and new book
> > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 1998 20:20:03 -0200
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > First, I uploaded some more entries to the database today. Check
them
> > out and don't forget to contribute with your own! Address below, of
> > course.
> >
> > Second, I searched again the records at Canterbury Public Library
and
> > found a new book:
> >
> > McDonnell, Brian. Fresh Approaches to Film, Auckland, NZ, Addison
Wesley
> > Longman New Zealand, 1998. (call #791.437)
> >
> > As I found it under the search for the words "Heavenly Creatures",
this
> > book may have something interesting about the movie. Couldn't find
it at
> > Amazon or any other big online bookshop. Anyone knows anything
about it?
> >
> > BTW, thanks for the new URL, Marloes! The one I was talking about
really
> > had nothing. This new one has some great stuff - the .pdf file is
huge
> > but it's worth the download!
> >
> > :*
> > Juliana.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________________________________________
> > Visit The Borovnian Archives!
> > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8826
> >
> > jbastos@usp.br
> > borovnia@geocities.com
> > ICQ #5513901
> >
> > --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n969.3 ---------------
> >
> > From: "M. Charles Frappier" <mc@oil.ca>
> > Subject: Re: Database update and new book
> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 00:16:16 -0400
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Juliana,
> >
> > Just wanted to say thank you for the time you devote to your site,
> > praticularly that small part of Borovnia that concerns us!
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
> > To: heavenly-c@lists.best.com <heavenly-c@lists.best.com>
> > Date: Saturday, October 24, 1998 5:38 PM
> > Subject: Database update and new book
> >
> > >First, I uploaded some more entries to the database today. Check
them
> > >out and don't forget to contribute with your own! Address below, of
> > >course.
> > >
> > >Second, I searched again the records at Canterbury Public Library
and
> > >found a new book:
> > >
> > >McDonnell, Brian. Fresh Approaches to Film, Auckland, NZ, Addison
Wesley
> > >Longman New Zealand, 1998. (call #791.437)
> > >
> > >As I found it under the search for the words "Heavenly Creatures",
this
> > >book may have something interesting about the movie. Couldn't find
it at
> > >Amazon or any other big online bookshop. Anyone knows anything
about it?
> > >
> > >BTW, thanks for the new URL, Marloes! The one I was talking about
really
> > >had nothing. This new one has some great stuff - the .pdf file is
huge
> > >but it's worth the download!
> > >
> > >:*
> > >Juliana.
> > >
> > >--
> > >_____________________________________________________
> > > Visit The Borovnian Archives!
> > > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8826
> > >
> > > jbastos@usp.br
> > > borovnia@geocities.com
> > > ICQ #5513901
> >
> > --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n969.4 ---------------
> >
> > From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
> > Subject: Re: Database update and new book
> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 09:18:19 +0100
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > References: <199810242225.PAA03587@lists1.best.com>
> >
> > Juliana Bastos wrote:
> >
> > > BTW, thanks for the new URL, Marloes! The one I was talking about
really
> > > had nothing. This new one has some great stuff - the .pdf file is
huge
> > > but it's worth the download!
> >
> > No problem, that's what this list is for, isn't it? Can you tell me
if
> > the .pdf-file is different from the html-file?
> >
> > I watched S&S yesterday...wonderful! I'm slowly getting by on my
> > Kate-films!
> >
> > Take care,
> > Marloes
> >
> > --
> > I'm so aware of where I am,
> > but I don't know where that is
> >
> > Believe, K's Choice
> >
> > --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n969.5 ---------------
> >
> > From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
> > Subject: Re: Database update and new book
> > Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1998 11:01:03 -0200
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > References: <199810242225.PAA03587@lists1.best.com>
<199810250831.BAA03130@lists1.best.com>
> >
> > > No problem, that's what this list is for, isn't it? Can you tell
me if
> > > the .pdf-file is different from the html-file?
> >
> > PDF files, to be opened with Adobe Acrobat Reader, are exact
> > reproductoins of the file's real pages. It's just like if you
> > photocopied the articles in the library and put them in your
computer.
> > The file's really huge, almost 9 MB, but it's very nice to have the
> > chance to see the newspapers the way they look like.
> >
> > It also, IMHO, shows how much the Parker-Hulme case was important
to the
> > local media (and for the local society too). When you read the
> > transcribed text on a html or txt file you don't realize how much
space
> > it took on the newspaper pages. It was a lot, really.
> >
> > :*
> > Juliana.
> >
> > --
> > _____________________________________________________
> > Visit The Borovnian Archives!
> > http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/8826
> >
> > jbastos@usp.br
> > borovnia@geocities.com
> > ICQ #5513901
> >
> > --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n969.6 ---------------
> >
> > From: "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinternet.com>
> > Subject: OMIGOD!
> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 16:00:34 -0000
> > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > Content-Type: text/plain;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> >
> > Hey guys!
> >
> > Okay, so I just got back from seeing 'Ever After...' Melanie was
> > *fantastic*. She seriously outshone everyone else. Her accent was
so cute,
> > too! I'll definitely be buying this when it comes out, just for
Melanie
> > alone.
> >
> > That's all!
> >
> > Alisha
> > xoxox
> >
> > alisha1121@hotmail.com
> > kleinjan@btinternet.com
> > http://www.btinternet.com/~f.bean/frontx.htm
> >
> > "Don't you blame the movies. Movies don't create psychos;
> > movies make psychos more creative."
> >
> > - Billy Loomis, 'Scream'
> >
> > "I really like gratuitous nudity. I hate when people go
> > 'I'll only do it if it makes sense for the movie.' It
> > never makes sense. So I like it - the more gratuitous
> > the better."
> >
> > - David Duchovny. Amen.
> >
> > --------------- END heavenly-c.v001.n969 ---------------
>
> --------------- END heavenly-c.v001.n970 ---------------
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: sorta OT: HC question
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 1998 12:33:25 EST
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hi everyone.
i'm doing a paper for school about "gothic architecture".
while doing research i came across a familiar word, it was one of the
names of
a church. i thought i had heard it before either in heavenly creatures
or
jude. does anyone on the list know if either jude or HC has any scenes
in a
"gothic" building? if it does, i was thinking of showing a scene to my
class
as a visual and as part of my oral presentation. thanks everyone...=)
~joanna~
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Celebrity Style
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:37:37 +0000
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hanna bervoets wrote:
> BTW: for those who are interested; there's a pretty good pic of
Melanie from
> "Ever after" in this USA mag. called "Celebrity style" ,or something
like
> that.[Maybe this is old "news" but I just found out..]
I looked EVERYWHERE for this magazine, couldn't find it anywhere. The
only magazine with a similar name I found was Celebrity Skin... and I'm
not going to buy that! *lol*
Hanna, could you tell me where I could find it? Or could you please scan
the picture after all? If you have a scanner...
Thank you,
Marloes
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: review
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:09:52 +0000
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Hi,
I spent last night, trying to translate the review for you, so here it
is. Please read it and change the things that aren't spelled correct, or
wrong in any other way. Some sentences might be a bit weird because I
tried to translate some typical Dutch sayings literally, and I tried to
stay as close to the original review as possible. Please change them
whenever needed.
Well, here it is:
********
Fate Strikes in Jude
Review by E.K.
Ten-cent pieces will never become quarters, is the gloomy conclusion of
the ill-fated drama Jude. Intelligence, good wil and hard work only lead
to a tragedy in Thomas Hardy's last novel 'Jude the obscure' (1895).
Optimist Jude Fawly only asks for two things in his life: to collect
knowledge and two live a peaceful life with his love Sue. But he smashed
into the prejudices and the narrow views of Victorian England.
And all this because of a rash crush. The naive bookworm Jude was
trapped into a marriage by seduced Arabella, but they had only just got
married when she leaves for Australia. Jude tries to get into the
University of Christminster, but in the centre of knowledge there's no
room for a lower-class person. In that city, he meets his great-niece
Sue and he falls for her intelligence, humor and independence. He helps
her to get a job as a teacher for principal Phillotson, the man who,
during his childhood, used to tell him that everyone can control his own
destiny.
Jude tries to, but fate keeps hounding him. When Sue finds out he's
married, out of revenge she throws herself into a marriage with the
amourous Phillotson.
Later on, Sue chooses a life with Jude, but society doesn't approve of
living together without being married. He loses his job as a stonemason
when people find out about his sinful relationship and only in the
poorest guest houses Sue and Jude find a place for them and their two
children to stay for the night. Just when they're slowly starting to
feel more happy, Arabelle comes back into the picture. She comes to
leave Jude's little son with our main characters. They take care of him
with love, but a misunderstood comment leads to a drama, that eventually
drives the two lovers apart.
It's a bit hard to accept that the independent, soberminded Sue clings
to the buoy of religion with all her strength, but leading lady Kate
Winslet knows to give meaning to that twist also. The remarkable
newcomer from 'Sense and Sensibility' plays an unforgettable part as the
spiritual Sue, a woman who, with her thoughts and actions, fits in our
time.
In that, almost modern atmosphere, director Michael Winterbottom lets
his splendid melodrama reveal itself. His pleasant, distant approach
gives Kate Winslet and the modestly and convincing acting Christopher
Eccleston the freedom to fill in the emotions. This produces a story
that is everything but old-fashioned, being a product of its time only
because of the moral (that doesn't stand far from us at all in the
essence of the case) and the beautiful settings.
****
Take care,
Marloes
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: review
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:54:42 +0000
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Yup, it's good ole me again...messing up the addresses...the review was
supposed to go to Jane...sorry people
Marloes
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (jeroen)
Subject: Re: Celebrity Style
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 11:46:51 GMT
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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998 10:37:37 +0000, ~lyric~
<heavenlycreature@innocent.com> wrote:
>hanna bervoets wrote:
>
>> BTW: for those who are interested; there's a pretty good pic of
Melanie from
>> "Ever after" in this USA mag. called "Celebrity style" ,or something
like
>> that.[Maybe this is old "news" but I just found out..]
>
>I looked EVERYWHERE for this magazine, couldn't find it anywhere. The
>only magazine with a similar name I found was Celebrity Skin... and I'm
>not going to buy that! *lol*
But, the new HOLE cd with the same name is quite brilliant (not as
brilliant as LIVE THROUGH THIS though). Especially track 8, NORTHERN
STAR, it rules!
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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001 - hanna bervoets <hanna-b@d - Re: Celebrity Style
002 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - IT's "Panic Broadcast"
003 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - PJ's Birthday
004 - Laurin McNiff <englishpat - Re: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
005 - "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo - Re: PJ's Birthday
006 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
007 - Sara Hutchinson Queen of - Re: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
008 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: PJ's Birthday
009 - "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo - Re: PJ's Birthday
010 - "M. Charles Frappier" <mc - HC Question
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From: hanna bervoets <hanna-b@dds.nl>
Subject: Re: Celebrity Style
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:24:59 +0100
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At 10:37 29-10-98 +0000, you wrote:
>hanna bervoets wrote:
>
>> BTW: for those who are interested; there's a pretty good pic of
Melanie from
>> "Ever after" in this USA mag. called "Celebrity style" ,or something
like
>> that.[Maybe this is old "news" but I just found out..]
>
>I looked EVERYWHERE for this magazine, couldn't find it anywhere. The
>only magazine with a similar name I found was Celebrity Skin... and I'm
>not going to buy that! *lol*
>Hanna, could you tell me where I could find it? Or could you please
scan
>the picture after all? If you have a scanner...
>
>Thank you,
>Marloes
I don't have a scanner, I really would have scanned it if I had one..I
got
the magazine at this store called "The American bookshop" it has all
sorts
of import magazines. If you want I'll go back to see if they've still
have
it and buy you a copy. K, let me know....
Hanna Bervoets
-hana-b@dds.nl-
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:29:18 -0500
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This may seem off topic at first ...however if you read on you'll find
a
few connections.
Tomorrow (Oct 30th) marks the 60th aniversary of Orson Welles'
infamous "Panic Broadcast".
On the night of Sunday Oct 30th, thousands of people listening to their
radios became convinced that Martians had landed, laid New-Jersey to
waste and were now moving in on New-York. What they were listening to
was
"The Mercury Theatre on the Air's" adaptation of H.G. Wells' "War of
the
Worlds"on the CBS radio network. The radio play was directed by "The
most
hideous man alive" (as designated by Juliet Hulme).
The play was designed as a series of news flashes cutting into "a
program
of dance music with Ramon Roquello and his Orchestra". People who tuned
a
few minutes into the program (and hadn't heard the intro or Orson's
marvellous prologue) thought the news reports were legit. This sparked
off a panic so disastrous, it changed the rules of radio and television
broadcast forever. It is the reason why CBS still, to this day,
maintains
the biggest legal department in the biz.
For a few days Welles, best know at the time for giving listeners the
creeps as "The Shadow" on radio, was indeed seen as "hideous" by the
general populace. However a few days later, public opinion began to
shift. Welles and his gang were seen as heroes who demonstrated the
full
power of media.
In his defense, he claimed this was a halloween prank that went
horribly
wrong. Oct 30th is traditionally known as "mat night" as kids played
pranks like stealing doormats. He claimed he had no idea it would turn
out this way. However, later in life, he admitted they knew exactly
what
they were doing. It's just that they were being threatened with
lawsuits
in the aftermath of the Broadcast.
In the months that followed, it was "promotions all around" for the
people involved:
- Welles moved to H'wood where he demonstrated the full power of film
with "Citizen Kane" (voted "Best American Film of All Time earlier this
year)
- The producer of the show was John Houseman who went on to produce
several classic films as well as creating the Stratford Shakespearian
Company.
- Joseph Cotten went on to become one of Hollywood's top actors.(He
starred in "The Third Man" and can be seen chasing after Orson in HC)
- Scriptwriter Howard Koch retooled a cheap little script for a B-movie
entitled "Everyone comes to Rick's" (which was to star Roald Reagan and
Anne Sheridan).
When he was done , his film was recast with Humphrey Bogart and Ingrid
Bergman and retitled "Casablanca".
- Even "Ramon Roquello" found big time fame. His real name was Bernard
Hermann.
He composed the scores for the best of the Welles and Hitchcock films
(including that nerve shattering "Psycho" theme).
People interested in hearing the actual broadcast can hear it in Real
Audio at the following site:
http://earthstation1.simplenet.com/wotw.html
A few local radio stations rebroadcast the radio play every year. Check
out your local listings.
Some TV and cable stations are broadcasting the wonderful made-for-TV
movie "The Night That Panicked America" to commemorate the event. In
Canada, that film will be shown on the SPACE network at 9pm E.S.T.
This event is also credited with being the spark of the 1940s "saucer
scares" and the seed from which most of the "Alien" folklore emerged.
Happy Halloween.
(:^)]
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: PJ's Birthday
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 16:33:45 -0500
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Oct 31st is Peter Jackson's 37th Birthday.
Appropriate isn't it? Unfortunately for Peter Halloween was not a big
deal in NZ when he was growing up.
It was six years ago this week that I met Peter for the first time.
We are both Scorpios, born roughly a year apart. I was born on Nov 20th
1962.
This could explain why we hit it off so well.
(:^)]
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From: Laurin McNiff <englishpatient@home.com>
Subject: Re: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:00:25 -0800
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Jean,
I honestly can't read through over 8 paragraphs without thinking
to myself "This guy could make a bundle just on writing a Welles
biography!" And what an awesome one it would be. Not to mention over 60
people would be garaunteed to buy it. (those 60 people being the fellow
listers of the HC list)
Thanks for the post, it was interesting, enlightening and very in
season;-) Have a happy Halloween, to everyone on the list.
Regards,
Laurin
VisualGrafx Web Design
http://www.visualgrafx.com
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From: "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo" <jabad@softtek.com>
Subject: Re: PJ's Birthday
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 17:27:02 -0600
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Congrats to the master PJ!
By the way Jean, I'm glad you posted your birthday date because I looked
for it in the IMDB and it wasn't there. May be you should update your
bio
in there. Do you have any problem with that?
Thanks for reading
José Antonio
E. Jean Guerin wrote:
> Oct 31st is Peter Jackson's 37th Birthday.
>
> Appropriate isn't it? Unfortunately for Peter Halloween was not a big
> deal in NZ when he was growing up.
>
> It was six years ago this week that I met Peter for the first time.
>
> We are both Scorpios, born roughly a year apart. I was born on Nov
20th
> 1962.
>
> This could explain why we hit it off so well.
>
> (:^)]
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 18:46:31 -0500
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Laurin McNiff wrote:
> I honestly can't read through over 8 paragraphs without thinking
>to myself "This guy could make a bundle just on writing a Welles
>biography!" And what an awesome one it would be. Not to mention over 60
>people would be garaunteed to buy it. (those 60 people being the fellow
>listers of the HC list)
What I know of Orson comes from other bios already published. I had a
big
"thing" about the man ever since I was a kid.
Actually, I just got a brainwave and maybe someone can help me get my
mitts on an audio book.
"This is Orson Welles" is a four tape compilation of interviews with OW
conducted by Peter Bogdanovitch. It's sort of the audiobook version of
the Bogdanovitch bio. I once foolishly lent the tapes to someone who
moved out of the city. Anyone who can help me get another set will get
a
GRAIL!
(:^)]
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From: Sara Hutchinson Queen of the 4th World
<u9713911@bournemouth.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: IT's "Panic Broadcast"
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:00:30 GMT
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I have a copy of the original "War Of The Worlds" Orson Welles radio
broadcast. I'll be willing to copy it if anyone is interested. Let me
know
if you are. :)
Sara**********
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: PJ's Birthday
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:05:32 -0500
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Jose Antonio Abad Trillo wrote:
>May be you should update your bio
>in there. Do you have any problem with that?
I already updated my gender with them: I was listed as an actress. I
also
tried to update but I kept getting error messages and just gave up. I
sent them an e-mail to have my gender corrected which they did.
I'm not much on celebrating my birthday- in fact I'm an old grouch. I'm
amused that it falls 9 months to the day after John Glenn's original
flight (Feb 20th 1962). I wonder if ...
(:^)]
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From: "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo" <jabad@softtek.com>
Subject: Re: PJ's Birthday
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 1998 20:30:21 -0600
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E. Jean Guerin wrote:
> amused that it falls 9 months to the day after John Glenn's original
> flight (Feb 20th 1962). I wonder if ...
>
> (:^)]
Don't feel that old. At a perspective point of view you can say ...
well,
you can't say nothing. I also feel like an old grandpa' just because I
was
born 10 days after men walked on the moon. :)
Thanks for reading
jose Antonio
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From: "M. Charles Frappier" <mc@oil.ca>
Subject: HC Question
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 00:09:36 -0500
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Sorry if this has been asked before.
I just purchased a HC poster (the video one, I think) and I was looking
=
at the "dead" figure at the bottom of the poster. It's definitely not =
Honora. I fail to recognize any clue to the movie in the body.... The =
hair doesn' t look familiar, nor do the clothes....
Does anybody have any idea about that? Jean? Other distinguished =
experts?
Thanking you,
Charles
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Thanking you,</FONT></DIV>
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001 - "M. Charles Frappier" <mc - Again, and again, and again....
002 - "M. Charles Frappier" <mc - Sarah Peirse
003 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: HC Question
004 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - "Sexy" Kate tops British poll
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From: "M. Charles Frappier" <mc@oil.ca>
Subject: Again, and again, and again....
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 01:53:21 -0500
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I just finished watching HC yet again, a few minutes ago.
As usual, I found myself wishing they'd spare poor Honora at the last =
moment.
As usual, they didn't.
BUT
As usual, I am completely overwhelmed by the brilliance of this damn =
movie.
And I appreciate having the privilege of sharing this strong common
bond =
with all of you guys. Thanks.
Charles
PS: Jean, I never cease to appreciate your "mbwaaaa!". Merci.
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As usual, I found myself wishing they'd spare poor =
Honora at=20
the last moment.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>As usual, they didn't.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>BUT</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2>As usual, I am completely =
overwhelmed by the=20
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appreciate having the=20
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Thanks.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Charles</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>PS: Jean, I never cease to appreciate your=20
"mbwaaaa!". Merci.</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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Subject: Sarah Peirse
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 02:03:22 -0500
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I found a site for New Zealand Theatre listings and this little tidbit =
was in there...
Vita & Virginia
dir Sarah Peirse
prod Auckland Theatre Company
30 September - 24 October 1998
For those interested in checking it out regularly:
http://www.playmarket.org.nz/diary.html
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: HC Question
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:45:52 -0500
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M. Charles Frappier wrote:
>I just purchased a HC poster (the video one, I think) and I was
looking at
>the "dead" figure at the bottom of the poster. It's definitely not
>Honora. I fail to recognize any clue to the movie in the body.... The
>hair doesn' t look familiar, nor do the clothes....
>
>Does anybody have any idea about that? Jean? Other distinguished
experts?
The "dead body" is definitely the video edition.
Halfway through its theatrical run the image of Honora and the girls
walking in the woods was substitued for a dark figure in a coat and
hat.
I think that was supposed to be me (it's not).
Then , when the video edition came out, the poster went dark (I like
the
color scheme) and this dead girl was substituted instead of the walk in
the woods.
Market research probably showed that people who hadn't see the film
figured thought the image showed a picnic.
(:^)]
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: "Sexy" Kate tops British poll
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 1998 11:34:29 -0500
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From Mr.Showbiz.com:
Sean Connery still has it. The 68-year-old
Oscar-winning actor was named the "sexiest actor" in
Britain in a recent English poll. The onetime James
Bond captured 32 percent of the vote, easily beating out
Hugh Grant's 13 percent. Rounding out the Top 5:
Ewan McGregor, The Full Monty's Robert Carlyle,
and Jeremy Irons.
In that same poll, Kate Winslet captured "sexiest
actress." The 23-year-old Titanic star edged out Liz
Hurley, Kate Beckinsale, and Helena Bonham Carter.
(:^)]
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001 - mailcall <mailcall@bluema - Re: PJ's Birthday
002 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - thanx
003 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (jeroen) - Re: thanx
004 - Rosedwson4@aol.com - Re:"sexy" Kate :-)
005 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re:"sexy" Kate :-)
006 - Diello833@aol.com - Big news for HC fans
007 - Diello833@aol.com - Happy Haloween ;)
008 - Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfo - Re: Big news for HC fans
009 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Big news for HC fans
010 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Happy Haloween ;)
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From: mailcall <mailcall@bluemarble.net>
Subject: Re: PJ's Birthday
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 03:19:26 -0500 (EST)
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you feel like an old grandpa because you were born just after men
walked on
the moon?
imagine how i feel... i can remember watching john glenn's FIRST space
flight on tv! i was born like 4 years after the happy event.
i get in some of these music lists with kids who ask things like
"what's an
LP" and i feel like fat freddie in the freak brothers comics, when the
young kids with their shaved heads and earrings in places god never
meant
us to have them, crowded around him and said "gee, mr. freekowtski,
tell us
about the OLDEN DAYS!"
sittin' in my rockin' chair watchin' hc
mela
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From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: thanx
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:01:44 +0100
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Hai, ik heb je cd gehad...bedankt!!! Hij draait al. De jouwe haal ik
maandag en dan gaat 'ie meteen op de bus.
doeidoei,
Marloes
--
I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (jeroen)
Subject: Re: thanx
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 14:58:52 GMT
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On Sat, 31 Oct 1998 13:01:44 +0100, ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
wrote:
>Hai, ik heb je cd gehad...bedankt!!! Hij draait al. De jouwe haal ik
>maandag en dan gaat 'ie meteen op de bus.
Mooi zo, alvast bedankt.
THE PROFESSIONAL nog gezien? Ik zapte er gisteren langs, was dus
jammergenoeg wel de pan & scan versie, met 45% minder beeldmateriaal.
En als er 1 film is die onder p&s te lijden heeft is het wel deze.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: Rosedwson4@aol.com
Subject: Re:"sexy" Kate :-)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 12:05:15 EST
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In a message dated 98-10-31 02:24:17 EST, you write:
> In that same poll, Kate Winslet captured "sexiest
> actress." The 23-year-old Titanic star edged out Liz
> Hurley, Kate Beckinsale, and Helena Bonham Carter.
>
yeah!! i got this magazine yesterday... im sure anyone in england got
it like
a month ago though... its like the extra supplement thingy that comes
with the
October issue of Empire magazine (UK)... its "the 100 sexiest people of
1998"
AND KATE WON!!!!!!!! oooh man was i FLIPPIN when i got that mag :-)!!!
anyways... theres a big full page pic of her on the first page, but its
one of
the ones from movieline, only enlarged.. where shes lying on the ground
in
that silver tight dress thingy (actually it looks rather uncomfortable,
coz i
have tights made out of the same material and its so itchy.. eh, oh
well, she
looks amazing anyways- as always... just me being random again)
anyway, just
letting anyone know who doesnt have the magazine and wants to get it
:).. its
worth it.. it says some really sweet stuff about Kate...
k, later my creatures :-)
love yas!
~Rachel~
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re:"sexy" Kate :-)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 16:34:18 -0500
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Rosedwson4@aol.com wrote:
>its "the 100 sexiest people of 1998"
>AND KATE WON!!!!!!!!
Of course, Kate has been quoted as finding the whole thing "silly".
(:^)]
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From: Diello833@aol.com
Subject: Big news for HC fans
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:22:54 EST
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From the Bureau Statesman News:
A "Heavenly" Reunion
Director Peter Jackson and writer Frances Walsh have decided to take on
another project prior to tackling "The Lord of the Rings." Jackson and
Walsh
are the New Zealand based team that have brought many cult-hit films to
the
screen, such as "Braindead," "Bad Taste," "The Frighteners," and the
1994
true-crime/lesbian tendency/fantasy/thriller "Heavenly Creatures." In
"Heavenly Creatures," Jackson and Walsh introduced moviegoing audiences
to a
couple of new faces: Melanie Lynskey ("Ever After") and Kate Winslet
(two time
Oscar Nominee for "Sense & Sensibility" and "Titanic"). Lynskey and
Winslet
have agreed to star in the new film, set to begin filming early in the
new
year.
Walsh said that the story first attracted her to write the script
because of
its shocking nature and extreme absurdity. Jackson stated: "The
underlying
sexual themes between the two main characters have kept audiences
entranced
for three decades. Its a story that I've wanted to bring to the screen
since
I was a young boy." Lynskey was unavailable for comment but in a
statement
through her publicist is said to be delighted to reunite with her costar
Winslet and the Jackson/Walsh production team that started her feature
film
career. Winslet said: "Its absolutely the most intense script I have
ever
read. Its full of sexual repression, squashed dreams, and Frances
[Walsh] has
really outdone herself. Its a better script than "Heavenly Creatures."
Winslet is right. The script is a complex story of two women who are
seemingly in love with each other, but society will not let them be
together.
The story takes place in the sixties, with Winslet and Lynskey as the
two
lovers living together in an unforgiving blue collar Midwest American
town. A
bizarre story unfolds when two slimy would be suitors become suspicious
when
they are rejected by the couple. A young man comes to their defense
from the
unblinking community. The girls just want to live their lives, keep
their
jobs at the local brewery, and not bother anyone. But that would be
impossible. It ends in a bloody climax that is sure to turn stomachs
and
leave people contemplating their own prejudices.
Jackson said of the original version of the story: "It was my favorite
television show in my younger days. I've always wanted to make the film
version." He continues: "The day we bought the rights was the happiest
day of
my life. That was the day I knew my lifelong dream would come true. I
could
finally bring 'Laverne & Shirley' to the big screen." Jackson had
attempted
to buy the rights to the popular television show many times before, but
it
wasn't until now that he was successful. Winslet has stated that she
looks
forward to playing Laverne, having all of her clothes embroidered with
an "L"
on them. Lynskey has had her hair cut in Shirley's style and has been
spotted
wearing a small scarf in public. Winslet and Lynskey have been spotted
in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin touring local breweries and studying the Midwest
American
dialect. Set to play the roles of the slimy suitors, Lenny and
Squiggy, are
"Fargo" costars Peter Stormare and Steve Buscemi. Buscemi even stated:
"Squiggy was my idol as a kid." And the young man who comes to their
aid,
Carmine, is to be played by another "Heavenly Creature" cast member Jean
Geurin, who played Orson Welles in the film. Geurin said: "The
character of
Carmine is very complex. He loves these two women, yet he knows he can
never
have either one. But he chooses the chivalrous route and stays by
their side
to the bitter end." This could be a big break for Geurin, and after
some
initial readings with the rest of the cast, the smart money is on Geurin
winning an Oscar for his performance. The original television show was
a
spin-off of "Happy Days" and rumors abound of a cameo by Leonardo
DiCaprio as
Richie Cunningham and Alan Rickman as Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli."
Jackson plans to shoot the entire film on location in Christchurch, New
Zealand. And the budget is reportedly around $60 million. Most of it
will go
towards computer generated special effects on Buscemi's and Geurin's
hair,
because no wig or hair stylist can get human hair that greased back or
curly.
Jackson said on returning to the location of "Heavenly Creatures":
"Both films
have similar themes; lesbian tendencies, sexual repression, unwanted
advances.
So its only natural that we return here to make it."
We here at the B.S. News are truly excited about the prospects of this
cinematic masterpiece. It will go down as one of the great
achievements in
film history.
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From: Diello833@aol.com
Subject: Happy Haloween ;)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:30:51 EST
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist! Just a little Halloween prank!
Please forgive me!
Paul
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From: Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Big news for HC fans
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:48:50 -0500
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Yikes...
You almost gave me a heart attack! Well done. :)
That would be a dream...having Kate, Mel, Peter, Frances and Jean do
another film. Not too sure about the Laverne & Shirley part though. ;)
But I swear, I was almost convinced by the first part...
Ahh...my heart seems to have leaped back into my chest for the moment...
--
Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfoot.com>
Time to waste? visit my page at:
http://come.to/me.kate
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Big news for HC fans
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:44:16 -0500
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Diello833@aol.com wrote:
>Jean
>Geurin, who played Orson Welles in the film. Geurin said: "The
character of
>Carmine is very complex. He loves these two women, yet he knows he
can never
>have either one. But he chooses the chivalrous route and stays by
their side
>to the bitter end." This could be a big break for Geurin, and after
some
>initial readings with the rest of the cast, the smart money is on
Geurin
>winning an Oscar for his performance.
I was getting ready to post my doubts about this "news item" as I know
from talking on the phone with Fran earlier today that they are
waaaaaay
too busy adapting a 300 page script from the 1200 page trilogy to even
consider another film. Not to mention handling the two kids.
It's a fine hoax. I had a good laugh.
One thing though: my name is spelled with the U before the E.
As far as the chivalrous route is concerned, I guess that means I
finally
get to play a character not unlike myself. I probably do more than
that:
I probably become the asexual guy who offers them emotional support and
becomes their shrink too- just like I do in real life :-)
(:^)]
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Happy Haloween ;)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:52:38 -0500
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Diello833@aol.com wrote:
>Sorry, I just couldn't resist! Just a little Halloween prank!
One worthy of Orson as it must've sent a lot of people into a frenzy on
this list. :-)
(:^)]
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001 - Michelle Hrabec traveling - Re: Happy Haloween ;)
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Happy Haloween ;)
003 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - sorta OT: HC question
004 - recurring <recurring@yaho - Re: Big news for HC fans
005 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - Re: Happy Haloween ;)
006 - Christy Price <christy@ty - RE: Happy Haloween ;)
007 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - Re: Happy Haloween ;) + OT:
Tennessee
008 - Greer Mundie <greer_m82@y - I'm baaaack
009 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: I'm baaaack
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From: Michelle Hrabec traveling with Rose Bukater <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Happy Haloween ;)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:00:08 -0800 (PST)
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DAMN IT! that wasnt funny!!! *sniffle*
Love
Kate
---"E. Jean Guerin" wrote:
>
> Diello833@aol.com wrote:
>
> >Sorry, I just couldn't resist! Just a little Halloween prank!
>
> One worthy of Orson as it must've sent a lot of people into a frenzy
on
> this list. :-)
>
> (:^)]
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
_________________________________________________________
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Happy Haloween ;)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 20:16:46 -0800 (PST)
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whoops sorry forgot to change the name...
---Michelle Hrabec traveling with Rose Bukater wrote:
>
>
> DAMN IT! that wasnt funny!!! *sniffle*
> Love
> Kate
>
>
>
>
> ---"E. Jean Guerin" wrote:
> >
> > Diello833@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >Sorry, I just couldn't resist! Just a little Halloween prank!
> >
> > One worthy of Orson as it must've sent a lot of people into a frenzy
> on
> > this list. :-)
> >
> > (:^)]
> >
> >
>
> ==
>
>
>
> Love Kate
> X
> **I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
> **Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
_________________________________________________________
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: sorta OT: HC question
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 02:18:39 EST
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hi everyone.
i'm doing a paper for school about "gothic architecture".
while doing research i came across a familiar word, it was one of the
names of
a church. i thought i had heard it before either in heavenly creatures
or
jude. does anyone on the list know if either jude or HC has any scenes
in a
"gothic" building? if it does, i was thinking of showing a scene to my
class
as a visual and as part of my oral presentation. thanks everyone...=)
~joanna~
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From: recurring <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Big news for HC fans
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 00:26:25 -0800 (PST)
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What a trick! My.... you had me there for a while.
But wouldn't it be nice to have them all back together again.
Jane
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From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Happy Haloween ;)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 14:59:41 +0100
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Geezz...you got me on the first part! I was seriously getting excited
but reading I slowly started to think this was too good to be
true...*grin*
Anyway, thanx for the good laugh!
Marloes
--
I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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From: Christy Price <christy@tyler.net>
Subject: RE: Happy Haloween ;)
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:46:29 -0800
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Sent: Sunday, November 01, 1998 5:59 AM
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Subject: Re: Happy Haloween ;)
Geezz...you got me on the first part! I was seriously getting excited
but reading I slowly started to think this was too good to be
true...*grin*
Anyway, thanx for the good laugh!
Marloes
What is everyone talking about? Sorry, I guess I didn't get that email.
Hey Marloes, weren't you the one that said you were going to school in
Tennessee? Are
you there now or be there around the sixth of November? My aunt works
in a university up
there, it might be the one you go to. My aunts name is Melba Dukes, she
works in an office, do
you know her? Probably not. oh well :-)
--Christy
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From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Happy Haloween ;) + OT: Tennessee
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 20:32:51 +0100
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Christy Price wrote:
> What is everyone talking about? Sorry, I guess I didn't get that
email.
> Hey Marloes, weren't you the one that said you were going to school
in Tennessee? Are
> you there now or be there around the sixth of November? My aunt works
in a university up
> there, it might be the one you go to. My aunts name is Melba Dukes,
she works in an office, do
> you know her? Probably not. oh well :-)
> --Christy
Especially for you I'll paste Paul's halloween-joke at the bottom of
this email...you'll understand what got us all excited!
And, yes, I'm the one going to THe University of Tennessee, but I won't
be there in november )-: I'm leaving Holland the 2nd of January and will
be on campus in Knoxville the whole spring term. Anyone nearby Knoxville
that time of year?
I don't know your aunt, actually the only person I know is Jim Crook,
professor and director of the School of Journalism.
Do you, or anyone else, happen to know if Tennessee is very
conservative? And what about the campus? I had to answer the most
ridiculous questions, and the rules I read make me think of the fifties!
hehe
Okay, here's the joke!
>From the Bureau Statesman News:
A "Heavenly" Reunion
Director Peter Jackson and writer Frances Walsh have decided to take on
another project prior to tackling "The Lord of the Rings." Jackson and
Walsh
are the New Zealand based team that have brought many cult-hit films to
the
screen, such as "Braindead," "Bad Taste," "The Frighteners," and the
1994
true-crime/lesbian tendency/fantasy/thriller "Heavenly Creatures." In
"Heavenly Creatures," Jackson and Walsh introduced moviegoing audiences
to a
couple of new faces: Melanie Lynskey ("Ever After") and Kate Winslet
(two time
Oscar Nominee for "Sense & Sensibility" and "Titanic"). Lynskey and
Winslet
have agreed to star in the new film, set to begin filming early in the
new
year.
Walsh said that the story first attracted her to write the script
because of
its shocking nature and extreme absurdity. Jackson stated: "The
underlying
sexual themes between the two main characters have kept audiences
entranced
for three decades. Its a story that I've wanted to bring to the screen
since
I was a young boy." Lynskey was unavailable for comment but in a
statement
through her publicist is said to be delighted to reunite with her costar
Winslet and the Jackson/Walsh production team that started her feature
film
career. Winslet said: "Its absolutely the most intense script I have
ever
read. Its full of sexual repression, squashed dreams, and Frances
[Walsh] has
really outdone herself. Its a better script than "Heavenly Creatures."
Winslet is right. The script is a complex story of two women who are
seemingly in love with each other, but society will not let them be
together.
The story takes place in the sixties, with Winslet and Lynskey as the
two
lovers living together in an unforgiving blue collar Midwest American
town. A
bizarre story unfolds when two slimy would be suitors become suspicious
when
they are rejected by the couple. A young man comes to their defense
from the
unblinking community. The girls just want to live their lives, keep
their
jobs at the local brewery, and not bother anyone. But that would be
impossible. It ends in a bloody climax that is sure to turn stomachs
and
leave people contemplating their own prejudices.
Jackson said of the original version of the story: "It was my favorite
television show in my younger days. I've always wanted to make the film
version." He continues: "The day we bought the rights was the happiest
day of
my life. That was the day I knew my lifelong dream would come true. I
could
finally bring 'Laverne & Shirley' to the big screen." Jackson had
attempted
to buy the rights to the popular television show many times before, but
it
wasn't until now that he was successful. Winslet has stated that she
looks
forward to playing Laverne, having all of her clothes embroidered with
an "L"
on them. Lynskey has had her hair cut in Shirley's style and has been
spotted
wearing a small scarf in public. Winslet and Lynskey have been spotted
in
Milwaukee, Wisconsin touring local breweries and studying the Midwest
American
dialect. Set to play the roles of the slimy suitors, Lenny and Squiggy,
are
"Fargo" costars Peter Stormare and Steve Buscemi. Buscemi even stated:
"Squiggy was my idol as a kid." And the young man who comes to their
aid,
Carmine, is to be played by another "Heavenly Creature" cast member Jean
Geurin, who played Orson Welles in the film. Geurin said: "The
character of
Carmine is very complex. He loves these two women, yet he knows he can
never
have either one. But he chooses the chivalrous route and stays by their
side
to the bitter end." This could be a big break for Geurin, and after
some
initial readings with the rest of the cast, the smart money is on Geurin
winning an Oscar for his performance. The original television show was
a
spin-off of "Happy Days" and rumors abound of a cameo by Leonardo
DiCaprio as
Richie Cunningham and Alan Rickman as Arthur "Fonzie" Fonzarelli."
Jackson plans to shoot the entire film on location in Christchurch, New
Zealand. And the budget is reportedly around $60 million. Most of it
will go
towards computer generated special effects on Buscemi's and Geurin's
hair,
because no wig or hair stylist can get human hair that greased back or
curly.
Jackson said on returning to the location of "Heavenly Creatures": "Both
films
have similar themes; lesbian tendencies, sexual repression, unwanted
advances.
So its only natural that we return here to make it."
We here at the B.S. News are truly excited about the prospects of this
cinematic masterpiece. It will go down as one of the great achievements
in
film history.
--
I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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From: Greer Mundie <greer_m82@yahoo.com>
Subject: I'm baaaack
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:47:24 -0800 (PST)
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Hi guys!
For those of you that don't know me(and those that do but don't
remember) I am a longtime lurker, occasional poster on this list. I
live in New Zealand, not Christchurch, but Dunedin, southwards by a
few hours, and where parts of Jude were apparently filmed. I'm 16 and
am almost finished 6th form at high school(which is one year more than
either Pauline or Juliet managed, which is a little odd for me) and
this year has been enormously full-on and pressureful, hence my
disappearance from the Internet almost entirely. But I just finished
my last exam and now all that's left is the long coast down towards
the summer holidays and my trip to Germany(Duisburg, for anyone
familiar with the area), so I can relax and get back into stuff like
this again.
Anyway, it's good to be back.
Greer
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: I'm baaaack
Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:43:41 -0800 (PST)
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i dont remember you but welcome back!
Love
kate
X
---Greer Mundie wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi guys!
> For those of you that don't know me(and those that do but don't
> remember) I am a longtime lurker, occasional poster on this list. I
> live in New Zealand, not Christchurch, but Dunedin, southwards by a
> few hours, and where parts of Jude were apparently filmed. I'm 16 and
> am almost finished 6th form at high school(which is one year more than
> either Pauline or Juliet managed, which is a little odd for me) and
> this year has been enormously full-on and pressureful, hence my
> disappearance from the Internet almost entirely. But I just finished
> my last exam and now all that's left is the long coast down towards
> the summer holidays and my trip to Germany(Duisburg, for anyone
> familiar with the area), so I can relax and get back into stuff like
> this again.
> Anyway, it's good to be back.
>
> Greer
>
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
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001 - Sharon Bowker <sbowker1@h - Pranks/Welcome back Greer
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Pranks/Welcome back Greer OT
003 - Rosedwson4@aol.com - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n975
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From: Sharon Bowker <sbowker1@herald.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: Pranks/Welcome back Greer
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:22:31 -0500
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Hello Heavenly Friends--
Have to admit that Diello 833's prank was pretty clever...but not until
I got
done being disappointed that the reunion part wasn't true!
I spent Halloween night in the company of Tori Amos. (Okay, 15 rows
away from
her actually.) I mention this because I know there are a few fans on
this list.
It was a great show, but the band made for quite a different atmosphere
from her
usual "girl-and-her-piano"-type performance.
Good to hear from you Greer! When precisely will you be in Germany?
I'll be
near Freidrichshafen (sp) for the American Thanksgiving holiday through
the
first week of December.
Best regards,
Sharon
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"...how sad it is for other people that they cannot appreciate our
genius."
-Heavenly Creatures
Sharon A. Bowker
sbowker1@purdue.edu
Lafayette, Indiana, USA
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Pranks/Welcome back Greer OT
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:44:29 -0800 (PST)
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I LOVE TORI!!!!!!!!!! lucky lil blighter....
Love
Kate
---Sharon Bowker wrote:
>
> Hello Heavenly Friends--
>
> Have to admit that Diello 833's prank was pretty clever...but not
until I got
> done being disappointed that the reunion part wasn't true!
>
> I spent Halloween night in the company of Tori Amos. (Okay, 15 rows
away from
> her actually.) I mention this because I know there are a few fans on
this list.
> It was a great show, but the band made for quite a different
atmosphere from her
> usual "girl-and-her-piano"-type performance.
>
> Good to hear from you Greer! When precisely will you be in Germany?
I'll be
> near Freidrichshafen (sp) for the American Thanksgiving holiday
through the
> first week of December.
>
> Best regards,
> Sharon
>
>
********************************************************************************
>
> "...how sad it is for other people that they cannot appreciate our
genius."
>
> -Heavenly Creatures
>
>
> Sharon A. Bowker
> sbowker1@purdue.edu
> Lafayette, Indiana, USA
>
>
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
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From: Rosedwson4@aol.com
Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n975
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:49:25 EST
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In a message dated 98-10-31 22:11:14 EST, you write:
> Of course, Kate has been quoted as finding the whole thing "silly".
>
> (:^)]
>
yeah i know!!! i heard she said that too! well shes silly then!! I
think its
absolutely wonderful that she won and she deserves every bit of it.. no
even
more than that!!! LOL... no, really i love her. im using silly in a
nice way..
shes our "silly winslet child"!!! (right Gemma?) !!! :-) hehehe.
love yas!
~Rachel :-)!!!~
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001 - hanna bervoets <hanna-b@d - Re: sorta OT: HC question
002 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: sorta OT: HC question
003 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: sorta OT: HC question
004 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: sorta OT: HC question
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From: hanna bervoets <hanna-b@dds.nl>
Subject: Re: sorta OT: HC question
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:46:35 +0100
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At 02:18 1-11-98 EST, you wrote:
>hi everyone.
>i'm doing a paper for school about "gothic architecture".
>while doing research i came across a familiar word, it was one of the
names of
>a church. i thought i had heard it before either in heavenly
creatures or
>jude. does anyone on the list know if either jude or HC has any
scenes in a
>"gothic" building? if it does, i was thinking of showing a scene to my
class
>as a visual and as part of my oral presentation. thanks everyone...=)
>
>~joanna~
I think the cathedral is a gothic building, it's shown in the very first
scene ["and in the heart of the city; cathedral square"]Good luck with
your
oral presentation!
[I did a lecture about the Parker/Hulme case for English class today,
and
also showed a bit from the movie]
Hanna
-hanna-b@dds.nl-
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: sorta OT: HC question
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:46:20 -0500
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hanna bervoets wrote:
>>hi everyone.
>>i'm doing a paper for school about "gothic architecture".
From the "New zealand Handbook" by Jane King
"Christchurch conjures up vivid images of typical English charm-
striking
Gothic architecture and fine stone buildings..."
ChristChurch Cathedral certainly qualifies as Gothic.
Canterbury University (now renamed "The Arts Center") is described as
"attractive old neo-Gothic buildings".
So there you are.
(:^)]
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: sorta OT: HC question
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:34:02 EST
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In a message dated 98-11-03 16:08:35 EST, you write:
<< From the "New zealand Handbook" by Jane King
"Christchurch conjures up vivid images of typical English charm-
striking
Gothic architecture and fine stone buildings..."
ChristChurch Cathedral certainly qualifies as Gothic.
Canterbury University (now renamed "The Arts Center") is described as
"attractive old neo-Gothic buildings".
So there you are.
(:^)] >>
thank you so much jean!
you are seriously the greatest! =)
~joanna~
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: sorta OT: HC question
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 22:35:36 -0500
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LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
>you are seriously the greatest! =)
No I'm not...don't make my head swell up.
I'm just a big fan of the flick who got the once-in-a-lifetime chance
of
seeing it being made. I'm just here to share my experience and love of
the film.
(:^)]
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001 - Isabelle Laclos <ilaclos@ - Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of the
1930s
002 - mailcall <mailcall@kiva.n - Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of
the 1930s
003 - "Robert Baigent" <Antille - Hi and who i am
004 - Jenny Corleone <netdance@ - Re: sorta 0T: HC question
005 - Phil West <pgw16@hermes.c - Re: Hi and who i am
006 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re:
M=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e4dchen_in_Uniform:_the_HC_of_the_1930s?=
007 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Hi and who i am
008 - Laurin McNiff <englishpat - Re: Hi and who i am
009 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Hi and who i am
010 - "Robert Baigent" <Antille - Re: Hi and who i am
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From: Isabelle Laclos <ilaclos@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of the 1930s
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:40:47 -0800 (PST)
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Hi everyone!
Added a ForCor gallery to my site (you know,
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Louvre/2332/lynskey.html Ah you
don't), but that's not why I'm writing! I just saw Mädchen in Uniform,
which I've been wanting to see... oh.. even earlier than HC... And
there is no way on earth PJ & Fran never saw it! They did, I mean it's
obvious, so many things... Anyway any self-respecting HC-fan has to
watch it, it is part of the HC-fan culture, god knows, but watch it
watch it watch it! Plus it's genuinely fun, which I wasn't exactly
expecting from a 1931 film shot in Germany... how this one made it
through censorship I wonder... Oh, and if anybody speaking German
could send me a translation of the poem Manuela can't remember when
Fräulein Brenburg asks her gto recite it I would very much appreciate
it! Well actually, a simple refernece would do. You know, who wrote it
+ the title and I can look it up on my own.
Bye!
Isabelle
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From: mailcall <mailcall@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of the 1930s
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 15:12:10 -0500 (EST)
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"maidens in uniform" is referenced in "henry and june" which all
self-respecting creatures should go thou and rent (or buy) at once.
anais didn't write about pauline and juliet (though she could have) but
she
was an inveterate film buff (and actress) and i like to sit here and sip
hot strong coffee and wonder what she'd thought of heavenly creatures.
mela
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From: "Robert Baigent" <Antilles@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Hi and who i am
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:32:34 +1300
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Hi everybody I'm new to the list so I thought I'd introduce myself. I'm
a 22
year old (though I'll be 23 on Sunday!) student in New Zealand doing a
Masters in Film and TV. The topic of my thesis is : The Films of Peter
Jackson, and in particular the constructions of a NZ masculinity and
feminity that go on in these films. Of course HC is one of Jackson's
films
so I can probably bring some insights to any discussion you want to do
around this topic. Also if anyone wants to talk offlist or onlist about
anything else relating to this I'm happy to do so.
Until next time .......
Robert
Antilles@xtra.co.nz
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From: Jenny Corleone <netdance@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: sorta 0T: HC question
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:52:12 -0800
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> [I did a lecture about the Parker/Hulme case for English class today,
and
> also showed a bit from the movie]
I did the exact same thing maybe a year and a half ago. We had to do a
speech on
20th century crime, not because we were studying it mindyou..english is
never that
interesting, but because we were studying speechmaking and the teacher
wanted to
get our attention. I made this huge cardboard dispay with pictures and
such. Showed
the fourth world scene.
-J
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From: Phil West <pgw16@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:20:33 +0000 (GMT)
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On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Robert Baigent wrote:
> Hi everybody I'm new to the list so I thought I'd introduce myself.
> I'm a 22 year old (though I'll be 23 on Sunday!) student in New
Zealand
Making you 4 years and two days younger than me -- I'll be 27 on
Friday.
Hmm, seems there's quite a lot of Scorpios on this list... me, Robert,
Jean... could it be our passion, sexiness and intensity that draws us to
HC ... hey hey hey LOL... :)
> Masters in Film and TV. The topic of my thesis is : The Films of Peter
> Jackson, and in particular the constructions of a NZ masculinity and
> feminity that go on in these films.
Sounds interesting - although why is it always 'constructions of...'
these
days? First it was 'representations of...', then it was 'ideas of...'
and
now it's 'constructions of...'. What next, 'fabrications of...'? Hmm,
I
know someone who's just written a book on literary forgery, so perhaps
that is the next thing
So isn't it true that early Jackson films aren't constructed at all?!
OK,
I'm being flippant. Is it true that Braindead was originally going to
be
contemporary but that it was shifted to the '50s so that we don't reject
Lionel immediately as we might if he were a modern mummy's boy? I also
seem to remember that the character of Paquita is Spanish because PJ &
FW
liked Diana Penalver partly because of the possibility of Spanish
funding.
Do those kinds of things affect what you're writing?
Cheers,
Phil
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: M=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=e4dchen_in_Uniform:_the_HC_of_the_1930s?=
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mailcall wrote:
>anais didn't write about pauline and juliet (though she could have)
but she
>was an inveterate film buff (and actress) and i like to sit here and
sip
>hot strong coffee and wonder what she'd thought of heavenly creatures.
Here's a coincidence: isn't Kate involved in some Anais Nin project?
(:^)]
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:58:14 -0500
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Phil West wrote:
>I'll be 27 on Friday.
>Hmm, seems there's quite a lot of Scorpios on this list... me, Robert,
>Jean... could it be our passion, sexiness and intensity that draws us
to
>HC ... hey hey hey LOL... :)
Not to mention we are nuts about the work of a certain Scorpio director.
Maybe they're right about Scorpios being the most twisted sign in the
zodiac.
(:^)]
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From: Laurin McNiff <englishpatient@home.com>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:59:30 -0800
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> Hmm, seems there's quite a lot of Scorpios on this list...
Yes, apparently there are quite a few Scorpios on the list. I myself
will be 17 on the 12th! Go scorps!:-)
Regards,
Laurin
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:05:40 -0500
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Phil West wrote:
>So isn't it true that early Jackson films aren't constructed at all?!
It's true in a sense. Bad Taste began as a short and it just kept
growing
as they shot. Feebles was designed as a half hour but the japanese
backers kept asking for more.
Given those parameters, it's amazing they have the framework they do
have.
One thing is for sure, The Frighteners is very tightly constructed (the
climax is amazing) as is Forgotten Silver.
I suspect that Fran has a lot to do with that. Peter is a visualist and
a
bit of a loose cannon but Fran is very big on plot logic and
construction.
The work on LOTR is very meticulous. Fran is up to her ears in it. This
is not a trilogy that will happen over the years. It will be all
planned
in advance.
(:^)]
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From: "Robert Baigent" <Antilles@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:17:12 +1300
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>> Masters in Film and TV. The topic of my thesis is : The Films of
Peter
>> Jackson, and in particular the constructions of a NZ masculinity and
>> feminity that go on in these films.
>
>Sounds interesting - although why is it always 'constructions of...'
these
>days? First it was 'representations of...', then it was 'ideas of...'
and
>now it's 'constructions of...'. What next, 'fabrications of...'?
Hmm, I
>know someone who's just written a book on literary forgery, so perhaps
>that is the next thing
The reason this is the title at the moment is that I've just changed my
topic from doing a more general one on The New Zealandness of PJs films
to
being a more specific one just on masculinity and gender after I looked
at
what I'd written and found that if I continued as I was it would be
250,000
words instead of 25,000 words. We had to submit a working title to the
uni
so this is what we came up with. I'm going to change it but
"constructions"seems to be the hip intellectual word of the moment.
>So isn't it true that early Jackson films aren't constructed at all?!
That's what makes this thesis so interesting as I am able to compare PJs
early films which are more spontaneous with his later more "constructed
films".
>Is it true that Braindead was originally going to be
>contemporary but that it was shifted to the '50s so that we don't
reject
>Lionel immediately as we might if he were a modern mummy's boy?
As far as I'm aware they always intended it to be in the 1950s as the
other
coscripter alongside PJ and FW (whose name escapes me) wanted to make a
film
about the repressed 1950s in NZ. You might be thinking of an interview
where
PJ said he always has intended to make a zombie film but as far as I'm
aware
as soon as it got to the scripting stage it was always the 1950s.
>I also seem to remember that the character of Paquita is Spanish
because PJ
& FW
>liked Diana Penalver partly because of the possibility of Spanish
funding.
>Do those kinds of things affect what you're writing?
Yeah it was sort of due to the possibility of Spanish funding that
Paquita's
there though of course it sets up the contrast of the more "exotic"
Paquita
with the repressed and straightlaced NZers and thats why they've kept
her
there. It's sort of in this way that issues like that affect my writing
-
you know how they relate to the NZ aspects of the films.
Anyway i've got to go as I've an exam tomorrow so until next time ......
Robert
Antilles@xtra.co.nz
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001 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of
the 1930s
002 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Hi and who i am
003 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Hi and who i am
004 - StarScully@aol.com - Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of
the 1930s
005 - StarScully@aol.com - Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of
the 1930s
006 - StarScully@aol.com - Touch of Evil - orson
007 - "Major Tom" <majtom7@hotm - Lurker..and a Scorpio, too
008 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Am I the only non-scorpio member?
009 - Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@and - re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
010 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of the 1930s
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:14:48 -0200
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> I just saw Mädchen in Uniform,
> which I've been wanting to see... oh.. even earlier than HC... And
> there is no way on earth PJ ? Fran never saw it! They did, I mean it's
> obvious, so many things... Anyway any self-respecting HC-fan has to
> watch it, it is part of the HC-fan culture, god knows, but watch it
> watch it watch it!
Well, it looks great, but how can I find it? A 30's German movie? Kinda
hard here, I think. And what is it about? I can guess that's about two
girls, friendship... or not ? ;)
:*
Juliana.
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:23:30 -0200
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Welcome, Robert!
> The topic of my thesis is : The Films of Peter
> Jackson, and in particular the constructions of a NZ masculinity and
> feminity that go on in these films.
Ha! Another academic trying to understand HC! I'm also very interested
in studying HC and the Parker-Hulme case, in an historian's approach,
that is (although I actually study Ancient History...). That's what I
do, anyway. It's good to have one more person who's interested in this
kind of discussion. I'm really interested in your work, looking forward
to your dissertation ;)
BTW, since we're talking about this, have you ever read Glamuzina and
Laurie's book? If so, any opinions on it?
:*
Juliana.
PS: Feel free to visit the HC list members database in my page and send
us your info, if you like. (Hey other creatures! The ones who didn't do
it yet should do, too! :))
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Hi and who i am
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:42:39 -0500
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Robert Baigent wrote:
>As far as I'm aware they always intended it to be in the 1950s as the
other
>coscripter alongside PJ and FW (whose name escapes me) wanted to make
a film
>about the repressed 1950s in NZ.
His name is Stephen Sinclair.
The decision to set BRAINDEAD in the 50s was made prior to scripting
BUT
the film was set in that period because of the relationship with mum.
(:^)]
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of the 1930s
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:58:57 EST
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<< Well, it looks great, but how can I find it? A 30's German movie?
Kinda
hard here, I think. And what is it about? I can guess that's about two
girls, friendship... or not ? ;)
:*
Juliana. >>
I found this movie at Hollwood Video in my area. You may just have to
call
around and ask if they have it in their foriegn section. Oh and the
movie is
about this girl who falls in love with her teacher. It was absolutely
beautiful. If you don't mind German subtitles. You'll still be able to
follow along though.
*janel*
my dark victory
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8279/
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mädchen in Uniform: the HC of the 1930s
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:59:08 EST
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<< "maidens in uniform" is referenced in "henry and june" which all
self-respecting creatures should go thou and rent (or buy) at once. >>
Agh, I was about to piss in my pants. I thought no one else had ever
seen
this movie. I had heard about Maedchen in Uniform from a book about
Marlene
Dietrich and then I saw Henry and June which featured the movie. And,
and,
then I read books on Anias Nin...
<< Here's a coincidence: isn't Kate involved in some Anais Nin project?
>>
and then I hear KW may be in a movie about her and I was like "wow" (I
read
this in Girlfriends or Curve)
...okay im typing a mile a minute...And the thing that makes me really
happy
is a friend ordered the video from Suncoast as a birthday present (she
knows i
adore old b&w movies). I still haven't gotten it yet because it's so
hard to
get. I found out alot of cool tidbits about this movie, like it was
one of
the films that Nazis banned and wanted it burned because of the
"lesbian"
content in it. In the version I saw a part of the film changed to all
of it
being dubbed to only parts of it. I know I haven't practiced my German
in
quite some time, but I couldn't follow what they were saying half the
time.
okay i gotta take a breath, it's not that often that I could talk
endless
about something on this list. But thank you for bringing this movie to
mind
whoever started this thread.
*janel*
my dark victory
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8279/
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Touch of Evil - orson
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:09:45 EST
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Well first of all I would have never wanted to see this movie if Marlene
Dietrich wasn't in it. oh yeah and some guy,...oh whatshisname...Orson
Welles. Touch of Evil (1958) is playing here for like a few days and
tomorrow
is the last day, but I can't see it cuz I work. I am so peeved. I
have heard
all these great reviews on it, but just my luck I don't get the chance
to see
a movie great on th big screen. The thing about this movie is this
year it's
being rereleased because it will be shown in the original version, the
way
Orson Welles wanted it to be edited.
*janel*
my dark victory
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From: "Major Tom" <majtom7@hotmail.com>
Subject: Lurker..and a Scorpio, too
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 07:11:23 CST
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>Maybe they're right about Scorpios being the most twisted sign in the
>zodiac.
>
>(:^)]
Could be ;)
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:47:37 +0100
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I'm starting to think that I (born september the 4th 1997, and thus a
virgo) don't belong on this list...pretty strange that you're all
scorpios...I think!
Now that all your bdays are coming close: where's the party??? Are we
all invited? (-:
Marloes
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From: Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:32:27 -0500 (EST)
Excerpts from mail: 5-Nov-98 Am I the only non-scorpio m.. by
~lyric~@innocent.com
> I'm starting to think that I (born september the 4th 1997, and thus a
> virgo) don't belong on this list...pretty strange that you're all
> scorpios...I think!
1997...? Amazing! A babe, one year old, mastering electronic
communications! Alert the media!
No, but seriously marloes...I'm a virgo too... (sept 1 1976)
- Z o e
they cont seperate us, they cont! they cont! they cont!
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:01:36 +0100
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Zoe C Woodworth wrote:
> 1997...? Amazing! A babe, one year old, mastering electronic
> communications! Alert the media!
Aaarrcchhh...I know I shouldn't even look at a screen today, let go type
emails...I'm screwing up big time. Like is said earlier: I first peeked
into this world in 1977... (-:
> No, but seriously marloes...I'm a virgo too... (sept 1 1976)
>
> - Z o e
> they cont seperate us, they cont! they cont! they cont!
Hi Zoe! Haven't heard from you in a while, how've you been?
Take care,
Marloes
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001 - hanna bervoets <hanna-b@d - Re: sorta 0T: HC question
002 - "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinte - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
003 - Christy Price <christy@ty - Virgo here(dontopen,no message)
004 - Sharon Bowker <sbowker1@h - Non-Scorpios
005 - G <v@gulati.demon.co.uk> - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
006 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Non-Scorpios
007 - "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
008 - dream lover <yourdreamluv - Re: Lurker..and a Scorpio, too
009 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
010 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Horoscopes - you asked for it!
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From: hanna bervoets <hanna-b@dds.nl>
Subject: Re: sorta 0T: HC question
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:20:35 +0100
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At 15:52 4-11-98 -0800, you wrote:
>> [I did a lecture about the Parker/Hulme case for English class
today, and
>> also showed a bit from the movie]
>
>I did the exact same thing maybe a year and a half ago. We had to do a
speech on
>20th century crime, not because we were studying it mindyou..english is
never that
>interesting, but because we were studying speechmaking and the teacher
wanted to
>get our attention. I made this huge cardboard dispay with pictures and
such. Showed
>the fourth world scene.
>
>-J
Hey, I showed the same part! That's funny! So what grade did you get?
Hanna
-hanna-b@dds.nl-
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From: "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:55:14 -0000
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>I'm starting to think that I (born september the 4th 1997,
*1997*???????
>and thus a
>virgo) don't belong on this list...pretty strange that you're all
>scorpios...I think!
I'm placed nicely in the middle of virgo and scorpio, being a libran.
I'm a
typical one too, hence my many changes between lurker and non-lurker on
this
list...
Alisha
xoxox
alisha1121@hotmail.com
kleinjan@btinternet.com
http://www.btinternet.com/~f.bean/frontx.htm
"Heather says real life sucks losers dry. If you want
to fuck with the eagles, you have to learn to fly."
- Veronica, 'Heathers'
"I'm not going to ask you if you just said what I think
you just said because I know it's what you just said."
- Scully, War of the Coprophages
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From: Christy Price <christy@tyler.net>
Subject: Virgo here(dontopen,no message)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:08:47 -0800
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Told ya not to open! hehe..
Well, anyway, I'm a Virgo (September 12th)
Okay, I'm gone......
Christy
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From: Sharon Bowker <sbowker1@herald.cc.purdue.edu>
Subject: Non-Scorpios
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:24:58 -0500
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Fear not Zoe!
You're not alone! I'm a "Moon Child"...the term most Crabs prefer to
"Cancer"...born during JFK's Camelot...July 4, 1962.
Best regards,
Sharon
********************************************************************************
"...how sad it is for other people that they cannot appreciate our
genius."
-Heavenly Creatures
Sharon A. Bowker
sbowker1@purdue.edu
Lafayette, Indiana, USA
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From: G <v@gulati.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:54:13 +0000
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In message <199811051600.IAA07606@lists1.best.com>, Alisha
<kleinjan@btinternet.com> writes
>>I'm starting to think that I (born september the 4th 1997,
>
>*1997*???????
>
>>and thus a
>>virgo) don't belong on this list...pretty strange that you're all
>>scorpios...I think!
>
>I'm placed nicely in the middle of virgo and scorpio, being a libran.
I'm a
>typical one too, hence my many changes between lurker and non-lurker
on this
>list...
>
>
>Alisha
>xoxox
>
>
>you just said because I know it's what you just said."
>
> - Scully, War of the Coprophages
>
Now me, I'm a Taurean. What of it?
--
G
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Non-Scorpios
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:13:32 -0500
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Sharon Bowker wrote:
>You're not alone! I'm a "Moon Child"...the term most Crabs prefer to
>"Cancer"...born during JFK's Camelot...July 4, 1962.
Moon Child? I guess that makes me (as well as all Scorps) a "Man from
Mars".
This could explain my obsession with "War of the Worlds", "Mars
Attacks"
and Marvin the Martian.
(:^)]
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From: "Jose Antonio Abad Trillo" <jabad@softtek.com>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 18:02:30 -0600
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I'm Leo
José Antonio
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From: dream lover <yourdreamluver@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lurker..and a Scorpio, too
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:57:53 -0800 (PST)
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>
>
> >Maybe they're right about Scorpios being the most twisted sign in
the
> >zodiac.
> >
> >(:^)]
twisted? I'd say.....fun
Anna 11-4
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Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 23:19:14 -0200
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So, what's the reason behind this OT thread that makes everybody say
their signs? Hey, I couldn't miss that! ;P
I know not many are interested, but...
Sun on Aries (Apr. 3, 1977), ascendant (is this right it?) Leo, Moon on
Libra. (BTW, no other arians on the list??)
Kate is Libra (Oct 5) and Mel is Taurus (May 16), but you Scorpios
didn't lose yet: although Pauline is Gemini (May 26), Juliet is Scorpio
too (Oct. 28).
:*
Juliana.
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Horoscopes - you asked for it!
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 23:42:56 -0200
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Hope these links work. I'm not really sure if what's there is true, but
my chart was amazingly correct... the address, if you want to have some
fun too, is http://www.chartmaster.com.
Pauline Parker
http://209.24.209.4/reports/free/161/6438/1610913.html
Juliet Hulme
http://209.24.209.4/reports/free/161/6494/1610971.html
Kate Winslet
http://209.24.209.4/reports/free/161/6531/1611008.html
Melanie Lynskey
http://209.24.209.4/reports/free/161/6567/1611043.html
:*
Juliana.
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n982 --------------
001 - Jenny Corleone <netdance@ - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
002 - Lawrence Ladao <lnl5000@y - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
003 - StarScully@aol.com - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
004 - GinaGen@aol.com - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
005 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Re: Horoscopes - you asked for
it!
006 - Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfo - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
007 - mailcall <mailcall@kiva.n - Re: Horoscopes - you asked for
it!
008 - "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinte - Re: Horoscopes - you asked for
it!
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From: Jenny Corleone <netdance@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 20:59:21 -0800
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Nope...March 3rd. In the words of Kurt Cobain, "a sad, unappreciative
little pisces"
speaking of birthdays...I am going to be 18 in March! WHOOHOOO!!!
wait..what exactly
can 18 year olds do?
-J
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From: Lawrence Ladao <lnl5000@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 21:00:31 -0800 (PST)
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Hmmm, there seems to be a fair number of Virgo's here also.
Marloes,
Zoe,
Christy,
me (Sept 10)
-Lawrence
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 01:28:03 EST
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In a message dated 98-11-06 00:37:58 EST, you write:
<< Hmmm, there seems to be a fair number of Virgo's here also.
Marloes,
Zoe,
Christy,
me (Sept 10) >>
And don't forget me. Sep 22.
*janel*
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From: GinaGen@aol.com
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:12:06 EST
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In a message dated 11/5/98 8:03:16 AM Central Standard Time,
heavenlycreature@innocent.com writes:
<< I'm starting to think that I (born september the 4th 1997, and thus
a
virgo) don't belong on this list...pretty strange that you're all
scorpios...I think!
Now that all your bdays are coming close: where's the party??? Are we
all invited? (-:
Marloes >>
Nope...i am a gemini =)
karen 6-10-77...i am pretty sure you meant 77, right??I did the
samething on
another list
karen
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes - you asked for it!
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 10:31:49 +0100
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Juliana Bastos wrote:
>
> Hope these links work. I'm not really sure if what's there is true,
but
> my chart was amazingly correct... the address, if you want to have
some
> fun too, is http://www.chartmaster.com.
oh my gawd! Mine was SO true.... (-: Amazing indeed!
Marloes
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From: Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfoot.com>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:16:17 -0500
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> (BTW, no other arians on the list??)
March 28, 1982. Aries. :)
--
Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfoot.com>
Time to waste? Visit my page at:
http://come.to/me.kate
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From: mailcall <mailcall@kiva.net>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes - you asked for it!
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:41:00 -0500 (EST)
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i'm taurus (april 26)
my mom has been casting horoscopes for a long time. she can tell you
not
just things about yourself, but if you can give her your birth place
and
time as well as date, she can tell you what might be influencing you in
the
future, what to watch out for, possible business opportunities etc.
she's
pretty damn accurate most of the time.
write to her at goldfinch@netbird.com if interested.
mela
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From: "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinternet.com>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes - you asked for it!
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:06:02 -0000
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>> Hope these links work. I'm not really sure if what's there is true,
but
>> my chart was amazingly correct... the address, if you want to have
some
>> fun too, is http://www.chartmaster.com.
>
>oh my gawd! Mine was SO true.... (-: Amazing indeed!
>
>Marloes
Mine was not at all true... almost exactly the opposite, actually.
Maybe I'm
not such a typical Libran after all????
Alisha
xoxox
alisha1121@hotmail.com
kleinjan@btinternet.com
http://www.btinternet.com/~f.bean/frontx.htm
"Heather says real life sucks losers dry. If you want
to fuck with the eagles, you have to learn to fly."
- Veronica, 'Heathers'
"I'm not going to ask you if you just said what I think
you just said because I know it's what you just said."
- Scully, War of the Coprophages
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n983 --------------
001 - Rosedwson4@aol.com - goodbye for a little while.. only
a little while... :)
002 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - Re: Am I the only non-scorpio
member?
003 - StarScully@aol.com - 17 mentions HC
004 - "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinte - Hey, something on-topic!
005 - Ken Grady <keng@intercoas - Re: Unsubscribing
006 - recurring <recurring@yaho - Re: Horoscopes - you asked for it!
007 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: 17 mentions HC
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From: Rosedwson4@aol.com
Subject: goodbye for a little while.. only a little while... :)
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:09:47 EST
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hey all---
well, im leaving for florida with some friends of mine in about 2
hours.. so i
wont be online for at least a week and a half.. then i have a weeks
worth of
performances for my show... so ill be busy then.. so ill see you all in
about
2 weeks... ill miss you!!! im not unsubscribing from the lists... but
i know
when i get home my delete key will come in very useful.. so if you need
to
reach me, e-mail me personally coz theres a good chance that if you
send it to
the list it will be gone soon enough.. so byebye.. i love you all...
anyone in
England .. send my love to kate.. (hey, you're closer.. your psychic
vibes
will get to her faster then mine will!!!... and especially now that
ill be in
Florida.. thats even further!!!.. oh no.. i can just feel a HUGE kate
withdrawl coming on!!! and no HC or interview tapes for 2 weeks!.. uh
oh...)
:-)~ LOL... ok, byebyeeeee
love always,
Rachel :-)!!!
ps-- if we get on any of the nickelodeon shows or anything i promise
ill tell
you all so you can watch us!!! hehe (too bad i just woke up woith a
huge zit
on my head.. that should look just lovely on TV!!).. later babes!!!
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From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Am I the only non-scorpio member?
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 19:19:38 +0100
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GinaGen@aol.com wrote:
> karen 6-10-77...i am pretty sure you meant 77, right??I did the
samething on
> another list
Hehe...
My hangover's gone, I can think again...yup I meant 77! (-:
Marloes
--
I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: 17 mentions HC
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:40:14 EST
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I got my Seventeen magazine in the mail yesterday. There's an article
on page
126 that says "Screen-agers" and it talks about movies about teenagers.
Under
the caption "girlfriends" it has HC and a little picture of them.
The gist: Pauline (Melanie Lynskey) and Juliet (Kate Winslet) retreat
into a
fantasy world. When their parents keep them apart, the girls decide to
murder
Pauline's mom. Based on a true story.
Friendship case study: Some friends can be inseperablyclose.
*janel*
my dark victory
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8279/
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From: "Alisha" <kleinjan@btinternet.com>
Subject: Hey, something on-topic!
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:47:23 -0000
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Howdy people
I'm looking for a particular HC image... the moment during the Donkey
Serenade scene just after the guy in the hat nods at them and they start
singing again, with those huge grins.... <gg> Does anyone know where I
can
find that still?
Thanks,
Alisha
xoxox
alisha1121@hotmail.com
kleinjan@btinternet.com
http://www.btinternet.com/~f.bean/frontx.htm
"Heather says real life sucks losers dry. If you want
to fuck with the eagles, you have to learn to fly."
- Veronica, 'Heathers'
"I'm not going to ask you if you just said what I think
you just said because I know it's what you just said."
- Scully, War of the Coprophages
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From: Ken Grady <keng@intercoast.com.au>
Subject: Re: Unsubscribing
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:04:34 +1100
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I'm sorry to have to bother everyone with this but I can't find my
message with
instructions on unsubscribing from this list. I'm going on vacation
for two weeks
and I need to unsubscribe until I return. The couple of addresses I've
tried have
returned error messages.
Any help on unsubscribing would be much appreciated.
Ken
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From: recurring <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes - you asked for it!
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:51:35 -0800 (PST)
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>> ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com> wrote:
>
> Juliana Bastos wrote:
> >
> > Hope these links work. I'm not really sure if what's there is
true, but
> > my chart was amazingly correct... the address, if you want to have
some
> > fun too, is http://www.chartmaster.com.
>
> oh my gawd! Mine was SO true.... (-: Amazing indeed!
>
> Marloes
>
Mine was very true also. But I don't usually bother reading my
horoscopes.
Jane (Cancer, 22nd June) :)
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: 17 mentions HC
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 23:13:50 -0200
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> Under
> the caption "girlfriends" it has HC and a little picture of them.
Hey Janel, what other movies did they talk about? Any connections with
HC?
:*
Juliana.
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001 - Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfo - HC To Be Shown On Canadian TV
Monday
002 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: HC To Be Shown On Canadian TV
Monday
003 - Gem* <gemnet@btinternet.c - Horoscopes etc. -OT
004 - ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme. - Re: Horoscopes etc. -OT
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From: Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfoot.com>
Subject: HC To Be Shown On Canadian TV Monday
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 17:59:50 -0500
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Well, it's FINALLY happened. HC is to be shown on Showcase again! :)
Monday, Nov. 9. 10:00pm
It took quite a while for it to be re-aired. I emailed them quite a
while ago. I wish they would update their webpage.
So anyone who wants to see it again, now's your chance. It'll be
interesting to hear the host's comments before and after.
--
Ryan Hrabec <hrabec@bigfoot.com>
http://come.to/me.kate
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: HC To Be Shown On Canadian TV Monday
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:47:22 -0500
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Ryan Hrabec wrote:
>HC is to be shown on Showcase again! :)
In case anyone is wondering...
SHOWCASE is a Canadian cable network.
It's owned by Alliance who distribute HC (and all of Miramax) in
Canada.
They use shots from HC in their "Showcase Revue" promos.
(:^)]
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From: Gem* <gemnet@btinternet.com>
Subject: Horoscopes etc. -OT
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:50:02 -0000
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Hiya everyone!!
Just to add my 2 cents to this, I went to an astrologer last week
simply coz I thought it'd be fuin and the charts she drew were also so
accurate, but my Draco chart was more pertinent to me. The really
interesting thing though was my Solar Rising which is another type of
chart and was so much like me it was scary!!! It tells what your year
will be like and from the outlook so far it it strangely true!!! ;-)
Oh and I'm also Scorpio!!! Should that be telling us something about
HC fans - incidentally Scorpios are renowned for their intensity and
strong, deep emotions and standing up for what they believe in - sound
familiar!!
love+hugz+dreamz+wishes+twinkly moonbeams+daisies in dew,
Gem*
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From: ~lyric~ <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes etc. -OT
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:38:17 +0100
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Did you all know about eachother that you were scorpios? ...and there
are quite a few virgins too. hmmm... The tiny bit unbelief about
horoscopes and such that was left in me, is now totally gone.
This is just a little part of my chart (without birthtime):
> As a child, you enjoyed daydreaming, fantasizing, pretending, and
> probably lived in "your own little world" a good deal.
Now, does that sound familiar? (-:
Marloes
--
I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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001 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Horoscopes etc. Not OT anymore
002 - StarScully@aol.com - Re: 17 mentions HC
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes etc. Not OT anymore
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:31:35 -0200
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> ? As a child, you enjoyed daydreaming, fantasizing, pretending, and
> ? probably lived in "your own little world" a good deal.
>
> Now, does that sound familiar? (-:
Well, I thought people would like to comment on this, but anyway, here
it goes:
Juliet Hulme:
"You also have a powerful need for deep emotional involvement
and you form very intense love bonds and attachments. You are
possessive and often jealous of anyone or anything that you
perceive as a threat to your bond with someone you love."
"You merge with or "marry" the person you love at a very deep
level and therefore separations are extremely painful for you,
and often stormy and nasty."
"You tend to worship Heroes who have powerful
personal magnetism and charisma, and often seek to emulate them.
You also have both a fear of, and an intense fascination with,
death and the hidden, secret, dark side of life." [That's me too, BTW]
"You have mechanical ability and work well with your
hands. You could become adept at sculpture, pottery, carpentry,
stained glass, or anything that involves doing and making things
manually."
Pauline Parker:
"You live in your head a great deal - reading, observing,
thinking, spinning ideas around - and you need mental
stimulation every bit as much as you need food and drink. In
fact, if you had to choose between a good book or movie and a
good lunch, you would very likely choose the former. You have a
creative mind and often live by your wits."
"Writing or speaking are areas you have talent for."
"You are romantic and tender in love, and the remembrance of birthdays,
anniversaries, family rituals, and other days of personal
significance is very important to you. You seek caring,
emotional support, and security in love. You like to be needed,
to cherish and protect your loved ones, and you are somewhat
possessive of them."
"Ordinary life often seems drab and uninteresting to you and
you must have something that stirs your imagination, some vision
or ideal or dream to motivate you. You have a strong urge to act
out your fantasies or to live your dream, and you will DO things
that others only talk about or dream about. Artistic creation,
drama, or other areas in which you can express yourself
imaginatively are excellent for you."
And the most amazing of all:
"Restlessness and discontent with responsibilities and limitations in
life can be troublesome for you."
:*
Juliana.
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Re: 17 mentions HC
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:48:41 EST
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<< Hey Janel, what other movies did they talk about? Any connections
with
HC?
:*
Juliana. >>
It also mentions Clueless, Heathers, The Craft, Girls Town, and Valley
Girl.
This was also in the little caption under "girlfriends".
A true movie girlfriend is there for you at all times: to convince you
that
your boyfriend is bad news, steer you through a complete beauty
makeover or
help you bludgeon you mom -- to death.
*janel*
my dark victory
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8279/
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n986 --------------
001 - recurring <recurring@yaho - Sarah Pierse on Murder Call last
night...
002 - Bear <Bear@kwfc.com> - Kate & Anne Perry on Discovery
Channel
003 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - completely OT: Left Luggage
004 - ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature - Re: Horoscopes etc. Not OT anymore
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From: recurring <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sarah Pierse on Murder Call last night...
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:31:17 -0800 (PST)
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Last night in Australia Sarah Pierse (sp?) was on Murder Call, an
Australian detective/cop show. She played a viola player who was in a
quartet and was a suspect to the murder of the first violin player.
She was good, as always (well I've only ever seen her in HC and this)
but she is a good actress.
I don't usually watch the show and it's not really that good.
But there you go. Sorry I couldn't tell you eariler (I only saw her on
the preview ten minutes before it started).
Jane~~
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From: Bear <Bear@kwfc.com>
Subject: Kate & Anne Perry on Discovery Channel
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:48:31 -0500
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Someone named Andrea posted that the Justice Files on the Discovery
channel had a segment on
Anne Perry the other day. To read her post go to:
http://www.kwfc.com/messageboard/messages/8180.html
Bear
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: completely OT: Left Luggage
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:08:57 +0100
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Just bought Empire today and noticed that Left Luggage will open
November the 13th in Britain. If you live in the UK and get the chance,
go and see it! I loved that film! Now that's no reason to watch it of
course but Isabella Rossellini has a wonderful part (that's a reason!)
and don't forget about Laura Fraser, playing philosophy student Chaja.
The settings are great also: early 70s, Antwerp, Hassidic ghetto.
Sorry to bother you with this, had to promote the Dutch filmmakers here!
(director Jeroen Krabbé ...ehh...yup, he also appears in Ever
After!...so it's not COMPLETELY OT after all...hehe. And screenwriter
Edwin the Vries)
Take care,
Marloes
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I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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From: ~lyric~ <heavenlycreature@innocent.com>
Subject: Re: Horoscopes etc. Not OT anymore
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:21:49 +0100
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Hi all,
Took me a while to find the time to even read this and comment on
it...and all I can say is: amazing. Thank you for posting the most
striking parts of the charts Juliana, very interesting! Reading this,
it's almost like Peter and Fran used these (or maybe other) charts to
give depth to the characters.
Were there also parts in the charts that were not correct at all? (as
far as we can be the jugde of that of course)
Take care,
Marloes
> Well, I thought people would like to comment on this, but anyway, here
> it goes:
>
> Juliet Hulme:
>
> "You also have a powerful need for deep emotional involvement
> and you form very intense love bonds and attachments. You are
> possessive and often jealous of anyone or anything that you
> perceive as a threat to your bond with someone you love."
>
> "You merge with or "marry" the person you love at a very deep
> level and therefore separations are extremely painful for you,
> and often stormy and nasty."
>
> "You tend to worship Heroes who have powerful
> personal magnetism and charisma, and often seek to emulate them.
> You also have both a fear of, and an intense fascination with,
> death and the hidden, secret, dark side of life." [That's me too, BTW]
>
> "You have mechanical ability and work well with your
> hands. You could become adept at sculpture, pottery, carpentry,
> stained glass, or anything that involves doing and making things
> manually."
>
> Pauline Parker:
>
> "You live in your head a great deal - reading, observing,
> thinking, spinning ideas around - and you need mental
> stimulation every bit as much as you need food and drink. In
> fact, if you had to choose between a good book or movie and a
> good lunch, you would very likely choose the former. You have a
> creative mind and often live by your wits."
>
> "Writing or speaking are areas you have talent for."
>
> "You are romantic and tender in love, and the remembrance of
birthdays,
> anniversaries, family rituals, and other days of personal
> significance is very important to you. You seek caring,
> emotional support, and security in love. You like to be needed,
> to cherish and protect your loved ones, and you are somewhat
> possessive of them."
>
> "Ordinary life often seems drab and uninteresting to you and
> you must have something that stirs your imagination, some vision
> or ideal or dream to motivate you. You have a strong urge to act
> out your fantasies or to live your dream, and you will DO things
> that others only talk about or dream about. Artistic creation,
> drama, or other areas in which you can express yourself
> imaginatively are excellent for you."
>
> And the most amazing of all:
>
> "Restlessness and discontent with responsibilities and limitations in
> life can be troublesome for you."
>
> :*
> Juliana.
--
I'm so aware of where I am,
but I don't know where that is
Believe, K's Choice
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