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001 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Issues
003 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@and - Re: Bound & gagged
005 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
006 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - Ald14hc@aol.com - my thoughts
008 - Ald14hc@aol.com - Jim
009 - Ald14hc@aol.com - well said Kate (winslett311)
010 - Ald14hc@aol.com - sexual prefrence
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 19:10:22 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-16 18:39:24 EDT, you write:
<< I beleive there souls were one, they shared souls, they were made for
eachother. I am open to anything cause what if your other half of your
soul is the same sex as you? Thats why I keep all oppions open, I am
not saying I am a lesbian I am just open to everything I am very down
to earth, and I beleave thats what happened to them.
Love
Kate
X >>
Way to go Kate! I totally agree.
Ava :)
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Issues
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 20:41:58 -0300
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> Mine too. Like Kate's weight, its a "non-issue"
>
> Ava :)
Sorry people, flame me, but this IS an issue. I agree with you all about
the girls themselves, they can't be considered as lesbians, because they
really didn't know anything about it. Anne Perry was right, considering
this, when she said they weren't lesbians. The thing is, the OTHERS knew
what was that. Why did Henry Hulme told Honora to take Pauline to Dr.
Bennett?... For the adults, their relationship was called "unhealthy"
beacuse THESE people knew what was going on. C'mon, this is evident:
remember the trial, the prosecution and the defense arguments, the
scandal that the case was.
The girls' relationship was wonderful, BUT they couldn't escape from the
society they lived in.
:*
Juliana.
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 17:12:21 -0700 (PDT)
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---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-16 18:39:24 EDT, you write:
>
> << I beleive there souls were one, they shared souls, they were made
for
> eachother. I am open to anything cause what if your other half of
your
> soul is the same sex as you? Thats why I keep all oppions open, I am
> not saying I am a lesbian I am just open to everything I am very down
> to earth, and I beleave thats what happened to them.
> Love
> Kate
> X >>
>
> Way to go Kate! I totally agree.
>
> Ava :)
>
Well Thankie Ava :) I was hoping someone would understand!
Love
Kate
X
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From: Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:09:47 -0400 (EDT)
References: <199807170016.RAA09873@lists1.best.com>
In-Reply-To: <199807170016.RAA09873@lists1.best.com>
> why does lesbianism even have to be "an issue", is my question?
well, not to make it any more of an "issue" than it
already...uh...isn't:
I was wondering.
A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing list,
but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
sexual orientation or identity.
come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides me)?
how does our own sexuality play into what we "read" into J & P and their
relationship?
Oh, another question that's been bugging me for a while...in the opening
credits of HC, there is of course a dedication, "for Jim." Who is Jim?
Anyone know?
- Z o e
who'll catch her death
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:50:57 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
<< A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
sexual orientation or identity.
come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)? >>
im bisexual =)
~joanna~
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:54:49 EDT
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In a message dated 7/16/98 7:18:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
<< A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
sexual orientation or identity.
come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)?
how does our own sexuality play into what we "read" into J & P and
their
relationship?
>>
Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
*LUV9*
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From: Ald14hc@aol.com
Subject: my thoughts
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:16:04 EDT
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I totally agree with you here, although, I would put them in the
classification of being lesbians (or at least bisexual) to an extent.
I'm not
saying that is a bad thing. Whatever society calls it makes no
difference!
They loved each other unconditionally, and quite beautifully, and that
is all
that matters. Ya know sometimes (actually everytime I watch the movie)
I
feel sorry for these girls (well, now women). They loved each other so
deeply, and went as far as to kill, to be together, and now, can never
see
each other again. I wonder... do you think they think of each other,
and do
you think they wish they could still be friends? I also have to feel
sympathy
for poor Honora, she, of course, didnt deserve to die.
-Angie
In a message dated 98-07-16 14:27:33 EDT, you write:
<<
I agree. I don't really think they were lesbians, because they would
not
have
known what lesbianism is. To people watching the film, who know what
being a
"lesbian" means, Pauline and Juliet were "lesbians." But all they
knew was
that they loved each other more than anything in the world, and that
is a
beautiful thing. How can you be something you don't know exists? Does
anyone
understand what I'm trying to say?
Ava :)
>>
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From: Ald14hc@aol.com
Subject: Jim
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:28:31 EDT
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jim was like the producer... or one of them... i think he died before
it was
released
-Angie
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From: Ald14hc@aol.com
Subject: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:31:09 EDT
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Ya know I always wondered that? People say that there is someone out
there
for everyone... WHAT IF that special someone just happen to be of the
same
sex.. or a different race (if you were not open to such a thing)? That
would
completely suck that you would miss out on a love that no one else
could give
you. Have you seen the movie Chasing Amy? I cant remember the line
she says
in the movie, but it was so perfect to describe this... if you've seen
it,
you'll know what I'm talking about. Great movie!
-Angie
In a message dated 98-07-16 19:27:59 EDT, you write:
<<
<< I beleive there souls were one, they shared souls, they were made
for
eachother. I am open to anything cause what if your other half of your
soul is the same sex as you? Thats why I keep all oppions open, I am
not saying I am a lesbian I am just open to everything I am very down
to earth, and I beleave thats what happened to them.
Love
Kate
X >> >>
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From: Ald14hc@aol.com
Subject: sexual prefrence
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:35:12 EDT
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Angie 23 female... i have never had an actual experience with a
woman, but
I have though about it... I'm not closed minded about the situation...
it just
hasn't happened, yet. I feel like Im in group therepy, LOL
In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
<< A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
sexual orientation or identity. >>
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n831 --------------
001 - StarScully@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
003 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
005 - mailcall <mailcall@bluema - Lesbians (was Re: Bound & gagged)
006 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Lesbians (was Re: Bound &
gagged)
008 - michaela drapes <oleanna@ - Re: OT:In the Company of Men
009 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
010 - KTYerves@aol.com - Bound etc.
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:03:23 EDT
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<< come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)? >>
::::looks around:::: me? 100% all the way. :)
*janel*
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:36:59 -0700 (PDT)
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---LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
>
> << A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
> but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
> sexual orientation or identity.
> come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)? >>
>
> im bisexual =)
> ~joanna~
>
WOW and the dirts coming out! Okay I wasnt going to tell everyone but
I was giving hints, I am bisexual also!
Love
Kate
X
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:38:39 -0700 (PDT)
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---LuvleeNine@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/16/98 7:18:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
>
> << A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
> but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
> sexual orientation or identity.
> come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)?
> how does our own sexuality play into what we "read" into J & P and
their
> relationship?
> >>
> Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
> *LUV9*
>
WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
Love
Kate
X
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:26:26 -0700 (PDT)
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YES!!! I love that movie!!! I understand completely. I will get back
to you tomorrow on that line its too late to think. but my fav line
from that movie is "Whats a nuebian? Bitch, you almost made me laugh!"
I love that part and "This pile of PMS is Alyssa Jones" Oh I have too
many fav lines you get the drift now I must get to sleep the whole
message board thing got me all upset and I know I am going to be
crying my self to sleep tonight. Goodnight
Love
Kate
X
---Ald14hc@aol.com wrote:
>
> Ya know I always wondered that? People say that there is someone
out there
> for everyone... WHAT IF that special someone just happen to be of
the same
> sex.. or a different race (if you were not open to such a thing)?
That would
> completely suck that you would miss out on a love that no one else
could give
> you. Have you seen the movie Chasing Amy? I cant remember the line
she says
> in the movie, but it was so perfect to describe this... if you've
seen it,
> you'll know what I'm talking about. Great movie!
>
> -Angie
>
>
> In a message dated 98-07-16 19:27:59 EDT, you write:
>
> <<
> << I beleive there souls were one, they shared souls, they were
made for
> eachother. I am open to anything cause what if your other half of
your
> soul is the same sex as you? Thats why I keep all oppions open, I am
> not saying I am a lesbian I am just open to everything I am very
down
> to earth, and I beleave thats what happened to them.
> Love
> Kate
> X >> >>
>
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From: mailcall <mailcall@bluemarble.net>
Subject: Lesbians (was Re: Bound & gagged)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 00:45:57 -0500 (EST)
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i have known a lot of people who feel that when two people love each
other,
their bodies don't matter. that seems a very wholesome thing to me and
something i can appreciate. that gets rid of labels. what's the point
really of whether or not paul and julie were "lesbians", the fact is
they
loved each other.
--==** melanthe alexian **==--
...she just slipped away...
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:13:14 EDT
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In a message dated 7/16/98 11:08:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
winslet311@yahoo.com writes:
<< Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
> *LUV9*
>
WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
Love
Kate
X >>
Arizona =) You up for a visit? WOoohooo! lol
Nasrin.
*LUV9*
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Lesbians (was Re: Bound & gagged)
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:15:53 -0700 (PDT)
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WOO-HOO Well said!!!
Love
Kate
X
---mailcall wrote:
>
> i have known a lot of people who feel that when two people love each
other,
> their bodies don't matter. that seems a very wholesome thing to me and
> something i can appreciate. that gets rid of labels. what's the point
> really of whether or not paul and julie were "lesbians", the fact is
they
> loved each other.
>
> --==** melanthe alexian **==--
> ...she just slipped away...
>
>
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From: michaela drapes <oleanna@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: OT:In the Company of Men
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 01:20:45 -0500
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>Minh mentioned 'In the Company of Men', and I'd like to second that
>recommendation. It's a really smart movie that shows alot about how
some
>men think. Plus you have to give a movie credit for having a smaller
>budget than 'Clerks' and still being really good.
>
>Kip
%3eakira@iastate.edu
I got to meet Neal LaBute and Aaron...uh forgot his name (the one who
played the evil guy...) at the London International Film Festival. Neal
and I talked a lot about how he filmed ItCoM--he's quite
brilliant--can't
wait to see the new film. I actually think that it was better than
Clerks
(not that I don't like Clerks--I love it!) in terms of social issues.
Of
course, you can't really compare the two...so that was pretty pointless.
Anyway, I'm all for the production of great indie films at bargain
barrel
prices. The films are so much more personal, innovative, and
thought-provoking.
-michaela
---
michaela rhea drapes
oleanna@mail.utexas.edu
...like Kurasawa I make mad films/ok I don't make films/but if I did,
they'd have a Samurai...
-barenaked ladies "one week"
---
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 23:27:01 -0700 (PDT)
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---LuvleeNine@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/16/98 11:08:32 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
> winslet311@yahoo.com writes:
>
> << Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
> > *LUV9*
> >
> WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
> Love
> Kate
> X >>
> Arizona =) You up for a visit? WOoohooo! lol
> Nasrin.
> *LUV9*
>
Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far away!!
DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
Love
Kate
X
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From: KTYerves@aol.com
Subject: Bound etc.
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:27:43 EDT
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Hey everyone!
I also love Bound..... and Jennifer Tilly's voice. :) There is a
soundtrack
if anyone is interested. I'm not sure if they still have it but it's a
must-
have for true fans. The music is SO good! Here is an awesome site
about the
movie. Has tons of info and stuff to download. Last time I checked it
had a
link or gave the address for the place to order the soundtrack so check
it out
if you want. If the link doesn't work than the address is:
http://www.mindspring.com/~moomoo/bound/index.html or the link....
<A HREF="http://www.mindspring.com/~moomoo/bound/index.html">B O U N D
-- The
100% Unofficial Website</A> And since were mentioning sexuality....I'm
21 and
bi.
~Kate~
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n832 --------------
001 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Bound & gagged
003 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound & gagged
005 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: my thoughts
006 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound & gagged
008 - Phil West <pgw16@hermes.c - Anne Perry
009 - Gem* <gemnet@btinternet.c - Agreeing!!
010 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Agreeing!!
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:54:44 GMT
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On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 13:57:38 EDT, PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>I agree. I don't really think they were lesbians, because they would
not have
>known what lesbianism is. To people watching the film, who know what
being a
>"lesbian" means, Pauline and Juliet were "lesbians." But all they
knew was
>that they loved each other more than anything in the world, and that
is a
>beautiful thing. How can you be something you don't know exists?
Does anyone
>understand what I'm trying to say?
People once used to believe the earth was flat.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:54:45 GMT
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On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 22:09:47 -0400 (EDT), Zoe C Woodworth
<zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing list,
>but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
>sexual orientation or identity.
I'm heterosexual, whatever that means. But, i'm an open-minded, live
by my feelings kind of person, so basically i'm in for anything i feel
good about.
In fact i once had very strong feeling for a male classmate, but i
guess that was more on an emotional level than sexual.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:54:42 GMT
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On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 12:47:12 +0200, lyric <dalyric@writeme.com> wrote:
>Jeroen wrote:
>
>> OK, i'll bite. Why is it not a lesbian issue? Or no, when would it
>> have been a lesbian issue? I know about the saints theory, but i
>> don't buy it.
>
>Then what do you think? Far as I know, Ann Perry herself stated that
>they were not lesbians.
Ann doesn't count, she is constantly in denial about the whole thing,
so i couldn't care less what she says.
>I am sure they loved eachother very much, and
>more then that. But they adored the Saints, and those were all males.
I adore a lot of male actors and musicians, and i'm not gay (well at
least not at this point in my life). And what about all the 15 y/o
girls who *love* the spice girls. I'm sure they're not all lesbians.
Like you say they loved eachother, that's really all there is to it.
This whole label business has got to stop, it only makes sense to the
henry hulmes and dr bennets of this world.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:16:25 +0200
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Whew!!! I was wondering why I had 31(!!!!) emails this morning...but now
I understand...we're all coming out of the closet...*grin*
my stats: 20, female, bi
lyric
Btw. I do miss some posts from men about this subject... c'mon guys!?!
--
I dared not to meet the Daffodils
For fear their Yellow Gown
Would pierce me with a fashion
So foreign to my own
- Emily Dickinson, 1862
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: my thoughts
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:21:14 +0200
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Ald14hc@aol.com wrote:
> Ya know sometimes (actually everytime I watch the movie) I
> feel sorry for these girls (well, now women). They loved each other
so
> deeply, and went as far as to kill, to be together, and now, can
never see
> each other again. I wonder... do you think they think of each other,
and do
> you think they wish they could still be friends?
That was really the first thing that bothered me when I saw the film. I
couldn't believe that they weren't allowed to see eachother ever
again...that must be the biggest punishment that can be given, not being
able to see the one person you truly love...
lyric
--
I dared not to meet the Daffodils
For fear their Yellow Gown
Would pierce me with a fashion
So foreign to my own
- Emily Dickinson, 1862
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:25:24 +0200
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Jeroen wrote:
> I'm heterosexual, whatever that means. But, i'm an open-minded, live
> by my feelings kind of person, so basically i'm in for anything i feel
> good about.
>
> In fact i once had very strong feeling for a male classmate, but i
> guess that was more on an emotional level than sexual.
Never mind my post about males...thanx Jeroen!! (-:
Marloes
--
I dared not to meet the Daffodils
For fear their Yellow Gown
Would pierce me with a fashion
So foreign to my own
- Emily Dickinson, 1862
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:31:44 +0200
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Jeroen wrote:
> Ann doesn't count, she is constantly in denial about the whole thing,
> so i couldn't care less what she says.
Okay, I didn't know that...where did you read this?
> I adore a lot of male actors and musicians, and i'm not gay (well at
> least not at this point in my life). And what about all the 15 y/o
> girls who *love* the spice girls. I'm sure they're not all lesbians.
Hahahaha....well we'll see in a coupla years!! *grin* No, serious: I
don't think that most 15-year-old girl dream about sleeping with the
spice girls, they just want to be like them. That's a BIG difference!
> Like you say they loved eachother, that's really all there is to it.
> This whole label business has got to stop, it only makes sense to the
> henry hulmes and dr bennets of this world.
And unfortunately there are still too many of these people all over the
world...but you're right, since we're not, we have to stop labeling.
lyric
--
I dared not to meet the Daffodils
For fear their Yellow Gown
Would pierce me with a fashion
So foreign to my own
- Emily Dickinson, 1862
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From: Phil West <pgw16@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Anne Perry
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:29:57 +0100 (BST)
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Jeroen wrote:
> > Ann doesn't count, she is constantly in denial about the whole
thing,
> > so i couldn't care less what she says.
She certainly has said some obviously defensive things about sex, like
the
quote from her (somewhere in the FAQ) about going to LA in 1967 and
having
'several red hot affairs with men'.
AP now lives in the Highlands of Scotland next door to her companion,
collaborator and friend Meg. As Robert McCrum's 1996 interview with
Anne
put it, 'once again the daughter of privilege made friends with a woman
from the other side of the tracks'. Meg was born with a hole in her
heart
and ran away from home aged 17. Both Meg and Anne joined the Mormon
Church
after devastating events in their lives, Meg after the sudden death of
her
third child.
Phil
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From: Gem* <gemnet@btinternet.com>
Subject: Agreeing!!
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:37:50 +0100
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Hiya Creatures!!
This is to say I fully agree with what Kate said, about how when you
meet your soulmate (if people don't mind me using that word!) It really
shouldn't matter, some people are destined to be together regardless of
sex because they have parts of their soul and personality and being
that fit with the other person's and each is there to help the other
with things they might not have survived on their own...
And lela said "Why does lesbianism have to be an issue anyway?" I
entirely agree there too, no one makes an issue out of it when men and
women kiss, why should it be an issue when two women or two men do, or
if they do more than kiss, if you ask me it's perfectly natural either
way and shouldn't be frowned upon as it is!!
Well, that was just my 2 cents there....
Make a wish for me,
love+hugz+dreamz+wishes
Gem*
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Agreeing!!
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:09:18 -0700 (PDT)
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WOO-HOO Well said! Thank you for agreeing. I feel totally the same way!
Love
Kate
X
---Gem* wrote:
>
> Hiya Creatures!!
> This is to say I fully agree with what Kate said, about how when you
meet your soulmate (if people don't mind me using that word!) It
really shouldn't matter, some people are destined to be together
regardless of sex because they have parts of their soul and
personality and being that fit with the other person's and each is
there to help the other with things they might not have survived on
their own...
> And lela said "Why does lesbianism have to be an issue anyway?" I
entirely agree there too, no one makes an issue out of it when men and
women kiss, why should it be an issue when two women or two men do, or
if they do more than kiss, if you ask me it's perfectly natural either
way and shouldn't be frowned upon as it is!!
> Well, that was just my 2 cents there....
> Make a wish for me,
> love+hugz+dreamz+wishes
> Gem*
>
>
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n833 --------------
001 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - Clipping
003 - Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@and - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - Lela Kaunitz <lelak@heale - OT: the Kate and Nasrin dating
game... ;)
005 - Elekktrikk@aol.com - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n832
006 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: OT: the Kate and Nasrin
dating game... ;)
007 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
008 - Tine Nielsen <tinen@dorit - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n823
009 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: my thoughts
010 - "Eileene Coscolluela" <ec - Labels (was Lesbians)
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 04:20:41 -0700 (PDT)
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And where do you live babe hehehe!
Love
Kate
X
---lyric wrote:
>
> Whew!!! I was wondering why I had 31(!!!!) emails this morning...but
now
> I understand...we're all coming out of the closet...*grin*
>
> my stats: 20, female, bi
>
> lyric
>
> Btw. I do miss some posts from men about this subject... c'mon guys!?!
>
> --
> I dared not to meet the Daffodils
> For fear their Yellow Gown
> Would pierce me with a fashion
> So foreign to my own
>
> - Emily Dickinson, 1862
>
>
>
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From: Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
Subject: Clipping
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:41:28 +0100
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Hiya all,
A while back, people were
wondering about the difference
between the UK TV version and
the video release version of
HC. The Video Release version
has a lot more picture than
the TV version and more
scenes. Get the Video. it is
the most complete version yo
can get outside of NZ !
I am most intrigued by one of
our new members who comes from
Christchurch. I lost the
original posting she/he sent
us. The question I wanted to
ask is. Did you say you knew
people who were at school with
Pauline and Juliet. And also,
is Ilam still standing? I know
the tea rooms were torn down,
but I am intrigued to know
what ever became of Ilam. and
finally, have you every been
to Port Levy?
Slightly off topic , does any
one know if Anne Perry's books
are going to be filmed ? I
know at some stage it was
rumoured that HRH Prince
Andrew's production company
was doing it.
Stephen.
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From: Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:57:19 -0400 (EDT)
References: <199807170016.RAA09873@lists1.best.com>
<199807170211.TAA15777@lists1.best.com>
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God damn!! I was expecting a _few_ non-staight people to pop out of the
woodwork, but jeeez!
So far...
heterosexual women: 1
# of het-identified women who've thought abt it: 1
bisexual women: 5
# of bisexual women named Kate: 2
lesbian women: 2
heterosexual men: 1
# of het-identified men who've thought abt it:
bisexual men: 0
gay men: 0
Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep.
Excerpts from HC: 17-Jul-98 Re: Bound & gagged by Jeroen@xs4all.nl
> And what about all the 15 y/o
> girls who *love* the spice girls.
Ohhhhhh sporty spice!! heart heart heart. I saw them 2 nights ago and
she is such a hottie!
- Z o e
whose heart starts to beat like a child when a birthday is near...
(when you are in loooove, it's the loveliest night of the year!)
ps. Pittsburgh PA, f/21, if anyone cares.
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From: Lela Kaunitz <lelak@healey.com.au>
Subject: OT: the Kate and Nasrin dating game... ;)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:14:28 +1000
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>> << Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
>> > *LUV9*
>> >
>> WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
>> Love
>> Kate
>> X >>
>> Arizona =) You up for a visit? WOoohooo! lol
>> Nasrin.
>> *LUV9*
>>
>Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far away!!
>DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
ladies, ladies ... you think THAT is distance? i'm in sydney, australia,
and my girlfriend is in south carolina ...
lela
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From: Elekktrikk@aol.com
Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n832
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 08:26:36 EDT
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how do i get off this fucking list???
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OT: the Kate and Nasrin dating game... ;)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 05:56:37 -0700 (PDT)
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---Lela Kaunitz wrote:
>
> >> << Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
> >> > *LUV9*
> >> >
> >> WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
> >> Love
> >> Kate
> >> X >>
> >> Arizona =) You up for a visit? WOoohooo! lol
> >> Nasrin.
> >> *LUV9*
> >>
> >Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far away!!
> >DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
>
> ladies, ladies ... you think THAT is distance? i'm in sydney,
australia,
> and my girlfriend is in south carolina ...
>
>
>
> lela
>
>
I was kidding around lela. Wow that is distance.
Love
Kate
X
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 05:59:19 -0700 (PDT)
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---Zoe C Woodworth wrote:
>
> God damn!! I was expecting a _few_ non-staight people to pop out of
the
> woodwork, but jeeez!
> So far...
> heterosexual women: 1
> # of het-identified women who've thought abt it: 1
> bisexual women: 5
> # of bisexual women named Kate: 2
> lesbian women: 2
> heterosexual men: 1
> # of het-identified men who've thought abt it:
> bisexual men: 0
> gay men: 0
>
> Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep.
>
> Excerpts from HC: 17-Jul-98 Re: Bound & gagged by Jeroen@xs4all.nl
> > And what about all the 15 y/o
> > girls who *love* the spice girls.
>
> Ohhhhhh sporty spice!! heart heart heart. I saw them 2 nights ago and
> she is such a hottie!
>
> - Z o e
> whose heart starts to beat like a child when a birthday is near...
> (when you are in loooove, it's the loveliest night of the year!)
>
> ps. Pittsburgh PA, f/21, if anyone cares.
>
NO WAY!!!!! You live in Pittsburgh? WOO-HOO! I live in Hermitage do
you know where that is? Its in PA. Its like 1 1/2 hours up from you
hehehe!
Love
Kate
X
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From: Tine Nielsen <tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk>
Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n823
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:11:44 +0200
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On Fri, 10 Jul 1998 19:07:02 -0700, "Michael Jaski"
<honestjon0@mailexcite.com> wrote:
>
>>I like Canadian bacon!!!!=20
Personally I prefer Danish bacon ;)
Cheers,
Tine
=====================================================
"When everything gets tough, denials all we have"
tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk/bridehead@hotmail.com
=====================================================
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: my thoughts
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:32:04 EDT
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In a message dated 7/17/98 2:32:44 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
dalyric@writeme.com writes:
<< Ya know sometimes (actually everytime I watch the movie) I
> feel sorry for these girls (well, now women). They loved each other
so
> deeply, and went as far as to kill, to be together, and now, can
never see
> each other again. I wonder... do you think they think of each
other, and
do
> you think they wish they could still be friends?
That was really the first thing that bothered me when I saw the film. I
couldn't believe that they weren't allowed to see eachother ever
again...that must be the biggest punishment that can be given, not
being
able to see the one person you truly love... >>
I have to agree.. I was reading an article in a magazine (can't
remember
which, sorry.) where they were interviewing Anne Perry, and they told
her
baout the whereabouts of Pauline. When asked if she would make contact
with
her now that she knows, she said that she had no intention. It broke my
heart. I wish them both to get back together. *sigh*
Nasrin
*LUV9*
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From: "Eileene Coscolluela" <ecoscolluela@kinderhook.com>
Subject: Labels (was Lesbians)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:34:29 -0400
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melanthe,
>i have known a lot of people who feel that when two people love each
other,
>their bodies don't matter. that seems a very wholesome thing to me and
>something i can appreciate. that gets rid of labels. what's the point
>really of whether or not paul and julie were "lesbians", the fact is
they
>loved each other.
Going generally off-topic here...
Something I've observed about people is that humans love to label
and
categorize things. I don't think that we'll ever get away from
labelling
people... we label ourselves to demonstrate our context in society.
Labels in and of themselves are no harmful... it's the connotations
that people place upon the words that are.
Eileene Coscolluela
ecoscolluela@kinderhook.com
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n834 --------------
001 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: OT: the Kate and Nasrin
dating game... ;)
002 - "Eileene Coscolluela" <ec - Survey...
003 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: OT: the Kate and Nasrin
dating game... ;)
004 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
005 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Survey...
006 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - OT: DVD
008 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
009 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
010 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Bound & gagged
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: the Kate and Nasrin dating game... ;)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:35:40 EDT
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In a message dated 7/17/98 5:30:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
lelak@healey.com.au writes:
<< > << Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
>> > *LUV9*
>> >
>> WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
>> Love
>> Kate
>> X >>
>> Arizona =) You up for a visit? WOoohooo! lol
>> Nasrin.
>> *LUV9*
>>
>Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far away!!
>DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
ladies, ladies ... you think THAT is distance? i'm in sydney,
australia,
and my girlfriend is in south carolina ...
>>
Hehehehehe, we have a topic just for us, Kate! Yay! Mission
accomplished@
Lela, ack..sorry to hear about that. Australia and S. Carolina!?!?
Yowza! I
suppose this way, Kate, you and i stand a chance. =) Woohoo!
LOL
Nasrin.
*LUV9*
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From: "Eileene Coscolluela" <ecoscolluela@kinderhook.com>
Subject: Survey...
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:39:25 -0400
MIME-Version: 1.0
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I'm a practicing heterosexual with definitely an eye for a certain type
of
femina...
I used to call myself "bisexual" but I decided that label wasn't really
describing me (I could never have a completely fulfulling relationship
with
a woman)... although, heterosexual doesn't describe me either (since I
do
have a type of woman that I find very attractive physically and
mentally).
I'm just an Eileene. <grin>
Eileene
ecoscolluela@kinderhook.com
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OT: the Kate and Nasrin dating game... ;)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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---LuvleeNine@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 7/17/98 5:30:47 AM US Mountain Standard Time,
> lelak@healey.com.au writes:
>
> << > << Nasrin...20 years old..female....bi. =)
> >> > *LUV9*
> >> >
> >> WOO-HOO!!!!! YEA!!! Where do you live hehehe!
> >> Love
> >> Kate
> >> X >>
> >> Arizona =) You up for a visit? WOoohooo! lol
> >> Nasrin.
> >> *LUV9*
> >>
> >Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far away!!
> >DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
>
> ladies, ladies ... you think THAT is distance? i'm in sydney,
australia,
> and my girlfriend is in south carolina ...
>
>
> >>
> Hehehehehe, we have a topic just for us, Kate! Yay! Mission
accomplished@
> Lela, ack..sorry to hear about that. Australia and S. Carolina!?!?
Yowza! I
> suppose this way, Kate, you and i stand a chance. =) Woohoo!
> LOL
> Nasrin.
> *LUV9*
>
WOO-HOO! I havent slept in 24 hours hehehe. I am a lil crazy! But
hehehe good chance eh? hehehe
OH BABY hehehe!
Love
Kate
X
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:52:42 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 02:08:27 EDT, you write:
<< YES!!! I love that movie!!! I understand completely. I will get back
to you tomorrow on that line its too late to think. but my fav line
from that movie is "Whats a nuebian? Bitch, you almost made me laugh!"
I love that part and "This pile of PMS is Alyssa Jones" Oh I have too
many fav lines you get the drift now I must get to sleep the whole
message board thing got me all upset and I know I am going to be
crying my self to sleep tonight. Goodnight
Love
Kate
X >>
i thought it was so cute when she said "1 minute 5 seconds, you are
such my
bitch"...hehe
~joanna~
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Survey...
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 06:47:14 -0700 (PDT)
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---Eileene Coscolluela wrote:
>
> I'm a practicing heterosexual with definitely an eye for a certain
type of
> femina...
> I used to call myself "bisexual" but I decided that label wasn't
really
> describing me (I could never have a completely fulfulling
relationship with
> a woman)... although, heterosexual doesn't describe me either (since
I do
> have a type of woman that I find very attractive physically and
mentally).
> I'm just an Eileene. <grin>
>
> Eileene
> ecoscolluela@kinderhook.com
>
>
>
Hehehe Just some advise hun, dont keep your options to one sex you
never know you might just fined that certain person in the same sex.
Dont mind me if things dont make sense I havent slept in 24 hours I am
a lil weird right now hehehe!
Love
Kate
X
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 09:56:44 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 05:41:06 EDT, you write:
<< Hahahaha....well we'll see in a coupla years!! *grin* No, serious: I
don't think that most 15-year-old girl dream about sleeping with the
spice girls, they just want to be like them. That's a BIG difference!
>>
hey! im 15 and i dont love the spice girls or want to be like them!
~joanna~
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From: Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
Subject: OT: DVD
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:55:50 +0100
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Hiya,
Just a quickie.
I have just received in the
post DELL computers latest
laptop price list and it say
"...includes DVD-ROM drive &
decoder at no extra cost..." .
DELL is one of the few
companies that rarely
advertise so called "Free"
deals. So maybe the computer
market will be pushing forward
DVD into the publics
attention. If anyone hears of
HC being issued on DVD, then i
will go for it .
Stephen.
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:12:35 -0700 (PDT)
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---LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-17 02:08:27 EDT, you write:
>
> << YES!!! I love that movie!!! I understand completely. I will get
back
> to you tomorrow on that line its too late to think. but my fav line
> from that movie is "Whats a nuebian? Bitch, you almost made me
laugh!"
> I love that part and "This pile of PMS is Alyssa Jones" Oh I have too
> many fav lines you get the drift now I must get to sleep the whole
> message board thing got me all upset and I know I am going to be
> crying my self to sleep tonight. Goodnight
> Love
> Kate
> X >>
>
> i thought it was so cute when she said "1 minute 5 seconds, you are
such my
> bitch"...hehe
> ~joanna~
>
Me too I love her voice! Its so sexy hehehe!
Love
kate
X
_________________________________________________________
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 07:10:18 -0700 (PDT)
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---LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-17 05:41:06 EDT, you write:
>
> << Hahahaha....well we'll see in a coupla years!! *grin* No,
serious: I
> don't think that most 15-year-old girl dream about sleeping with the
> spice girls, they just want to be like them. That's a BIG
difference! >>
>
> hey! im 15 and i dont love the spice girls or want to be like them!
> ~joanna~
>
And on the other hand I am 15 I love the Spice Girls and want to be
like them hehehe!
Love
Kate
X
_________________________________________________________
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Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 10:57:51 -0400
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Zoe C Woodworth wrote:
>in the opening
>credits of HC, there is of course a dedication, "for Jim." Who is Jim?
Jim Booth, the producer of HC (as well as Peter Jackson's previous
films
"Meet the Feebles" and "Braindead" aka "Dead Alive").
Jim passed away slightly before the film was completed, in the spring
of
94, of cancer.
Jim can be seen as the father in Braindead (in flashbacks and pictures).
(:^)]
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001 - "Michael Jaski" <honestjo - Coincidence?
002 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound etc.
003 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
005 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
006 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound & gagged
008 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Coincidence?
009 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: my thoughts
010 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Survey...
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From: "Michael Jaski" <honestjon0@mailexcite.com>
Subject: Coincidence?
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 05:10:44 -0700
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Hmmm...
Interesting to note the seemingly high number of bi folks surrounding
HC and/or Kate...
btw, I feel you can love whoever you want to...it's just that society
likes to have a convenient. one-word label for *everything*
while we're at it - straight...
although my best male friend is gay
also, I'm older than most ppl here...by far
Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound etc.
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:12:19 EDT
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I've never seen Bound, but since you guys all say its so great, I'm all
set to
watch it Sun. at midnight on Sundance (in case anyone else wants to see
it.)
I've called dibs on the TV (something you have to do when you have a
13 year
old sister) and I can't wait to see it. Thanks for the recommendation
everybody!
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:26:31 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
<< A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
sexual orientation or identity.
come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)? >>
Honestly, I don't know. I've never had an experience with a woman
before
(unless you count a peck on the lips in a game of truth or dare), but I
have
thought about it......a lot! But I also know that I like men too, so I
might
be bisexual. Well, here's my other stats:
Ava, 18, female, loc: Baltimore, MD soon to be Pittsburgh, PA
P.S.- Anybody read Marilyn Manson's book, where he says "All women are
by
nature lesbians"?
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:27:22 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 02:37:55 EDT, you write:
<< Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far away!!
DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
Love
Kate
X >>
Where in PA do you live? I'm going to college in Pittsburgh this fall.
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:29:17 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 08:04:41 EDT, you write:
<< Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep. >>
Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
college in
Pittsburgh in the fall.
Ava :)
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:10:57 +0200
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LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
> hey! im 15 and i dont love the spice girls or want to be like them!
> ~joanna~
Sorry, that's not what I meant to say...I was talking about the SG-fans
here...which you are obviously not! (-:
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:31:18 +0200
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Kate McFarland wrote:
>
> And where do you live babe hehehe!
> Love
> Kate
> X
>
Who?? meeee??? *smiles* ... on the other side of the ocean...in the land
of tulips, windmills and wooden shoes...*sigh*
The Netherlands, ever been there??
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Coincidence?
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:21:02 +0200
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Michael Jaski wrote:
> Hmmm...
>
> Interesting to note the seemingly high number of bi folks surrounding
> HC and/or Kate...
I'm hoping that people on this list are 'the average (not labeling!!!!
*smiles*) people'...hehe
> btw, I feel you can love whoever you want to...it's just that society
likes to have a convenient. one-word label for *everything*
Yes, and don't forget about assuming! Don't we all like to assume
things! (-:
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: my thoughts
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:08:03 +0200
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LuvleeNine@aol.com wrote:
> That was really the first thing that bothered me when I saw the
film. I
> couldn't believe that they weren't allowed to see eachother ever
> again...that must be the biggest punishment that can be given, not
being
> able to see the one person you truly love... >>
> I have to agree.. I was reading an article in a magazine (can't
remember
> which, sorry.) where they were interviewing Anne Perry, and they told
her
> baout the whereabouts of Pauline. When asked if she would make
contact with
> her now that she knows, she said that she had no intention. It broke
my
> heart. I wish them both to get back together. *sigh*
> Nasrin
> *LUV9*
Obviously we wish for more then they do, unfortunately. Anne can say she
has no intention to visit Hilary, but still I am positive that they
wonder about eachother...how could they not?
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Survey...
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:35:03 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 09:46:59 EDT, you write:
<< I'm a practicing heterosexual with definitely an eye for a certain
type of
femina...
I used to call myself "bisexual" but I decided that label wasn't really
describing me (I could never have a completely fulfulling relationship
with
a woman)... although, heterosexual doesn't describe me either (since I
do
have a type of woman that I find very attractive physically and
mentally).
I'm just an Eileene. <grin>
Eileene
ecoscolluela@kinderhook.com >>
I don't know what I am either, Eileene, so I guess I'm just an Ava :)
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n836 --------------
001 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
002 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
003 - StarScully@aol.com - Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
004 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Coincidence?
005 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: OT: DVD
006 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Clipping
007 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Bound & gagged
008 - Ald14hc@aol.com - Re: Labels...and such
009 - "B & B Library APCO" <LIB - Re: OT: DVD -Reply
010 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound etc.
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:43:41 EDT
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Now here's another movie you all have convinced me I must see. Time to
check
the cable listings for the month!
Ava :)
In a message dated 98-07-17 10:05:57 EDT, you write:
<< << YES!!! I love that movie!!! I understand completely. I will get
back
to you tomorrow on that line its too late to think. but my fav line
from that movie is "Whats a nuebian? Bitch, you almost made me laugh!"
I love that part and "This pile of PMS is Alyssa Jones" Oh I have too
many fav lines you get the drift now I must get to sleep the whole
message board thing got me all upset and I know I am going to be
crying my self to sleep tonight. Goodnight
Love
Kate
X >>
i thought it was so cute when she said "1 minute 5 seconds, you are
such my
bitch"...hehe
~joanna~ >>
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:49:11 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 10:30:52 EDT, you write:
<<
And on the other hand I am 15 I love the Spice Girls and want to be
like them hehehe!
Love
Kate
X >>
Kate, just thought you might be interested, I know a girl who just got
a job
in a Spice Girls tribute band. She's Baby Spice, so, fortunately of
unfortunately, depending how you look at it, she is like a Spice Girl!
LOL
Ava :)
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:54:25 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 09:44:09 EDT, you write:
<< Going generally off-topic here...
Something I've observed about people is that humans love to label
and
categorize things. I don't think that we'll ever get away from
labelling
people... we label ourselves to demonstrate our context in society.
Labels in and of themselves are no harmful... it's the
connotations
that people place upon the words that are. >>
True, true... We are all guilty of categorizing people at some point in
our
life. I think there's a whole yin yang thing to it. I mean sometimes
we look
for people that have the same interests and look like us to feel
"accepted" or
whatever, but when we see someone different from what we think is
normal then
it's like we either joke them because we don't understand or just act
like
they don't exist. I find it easier to just get to know people for who
they
are. You know what they say about people who assume things...::::all
together
class:::: You make an "Ass" out of "me" and "u" ... thank you for my
reading
my little nugget of joy today.
*janel*
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Coincidence?
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:11:07 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 12:44:23 EDT, you write:
<< Hmmm...
Interesting to note the seemingly high number of bi folks surrounding
HC
and/or Kate...
btw, I feel you can love whoever you want to...it's just that society
likes
to have a convenient. one-word label for *everything*
while we're at it - straight...
although my best male friend is gay
also, I'm older than most ppl here...by far
>>
How old are you, if you don't mind my asking. I'm 18 and confused - I
have no
label at the moment.
Ava :)
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: OT: DVD
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:28:48 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:55:50 +0100, Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
wrote:
>I have just received in the
>post DELL computers latest
>laptop price list and it say
>"...includes DVD-ROM drive &
>decoder at no extra cost..." .
Be warned, those are usually crap drives, like the creative dxr2. If
you want dvd-rom drive go for the hollywood 3 or fusion 3d as these
support real progressive scan output.
>attention. If anyone hears of
>HC being issued on DVD, then i
>will go for it .
We should all email/call/snail mail/fax miramax about this. Or even
better, criterion. I remember there were some rumours a while ago
about them releasing HC on laser.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Clipping
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:28:47 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 12:41:28 +0100, Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
wrote:
>A while back, people were
>wondering about the difference
>between the UK TV version and
>the video release version of
>HC. The Video Release version
>has a lot more picture than
>the TV version and more
>scenes. Get the Video. it is
>the most complete version yo
>can get outside of NZ !
And then cut yourself a cardboard frame with a 2.35:1 width:height
letterbox opening in the middle and glue it to the front of your tv
set to see the film the way the director wants you to see it.
The full frame version, while containing more actual picture
information, is a cinematographical nightmare.
To the aspect ratio illiterates, don't confuse full frame with pan &
scan. Full frame always shows the most picture information, while p&s
always shows the least. It all depends how a film was shot and how it
was transferred to video.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:28:46 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 11:31:44 +0200, lyric <dalyric@writeme.com> wrote:
>Jeroen wrote:
>
>> Ann doesn't count, she is constantly in denial about the whole thing,
>> so i couldn't care less what she says.
>
>Okay, I didn't know that...where did you read this?
Don't remember, but it's just my impression after reading some of the
interviews. For example her saying that she was under very heavy
medication at the time of the murder, so she couldn't think clearly.
>> I adore a lot of male actors and musicians, and i'm not gay (well at
>> least not at this point in my life). And what about all the 15 y/o
>> girls who *love* the spice girls. I'm sure they're not all lesbians.
>
>Hahahaha....well we'll see in a coupla years!! *grin* No, serious: I
>don't think that most 15-year-old girl dream about sleeping with the
>spice girls, they just want to be like them. That's a BIG difference!
Hmm, ok. What i was trying to say is that loving/admiring/idolizing
or whatever another person doesn't say a thing about one's sexual
preferences. I love morrissey, not only for his music but also for
the person that he is, the things he says etc. But i'm in no way
sexually attracted to him, nor do i want to be like him. The quiff is
(erm used to be) pretty cool though :)
BTW i'd love to hear morrissey's contribution to this thread.
Comedian and admirer sean hughes once described moz as 'a man trapped
in a man's boddy'. Brilliantly appropriate to this discussion.
>> Like you say they loved eachother, that's really all there is to it.
>> This whole label business has got to stop, it only makes sense to the
>> henry hulmes and dr bennets of this world.
>
>And unfortunately there are still too many of these people all over the
>world...but you're right, since we're not, we have to stop labeling.
Yeah. Just the other day i was watching a ROSEANNE rerun, it was the
episode where the leon character tells to dan and his poker buddies
that he is gay. Then suddenly after a long silence this one guy says
'hey i know a gay guy in chigago, do you know him?' Haha, it was very
funny.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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Subject: Re: Labels...and such
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:41:14 EDT
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WOW! What a response (on the sexual prefrence thing). It just goes to
show
you that labels don't really matter. We all joined this list with one
thing
in common, and now we're starting to bond *awe* I told yall I felt
like I was
in a group therepy session. But thats cool!
BTW anyone live in the South. I'm in Louisiana (New Orleans), and I
haven't
noticed anyone anywhere close to here?
And as for Anne and Hillary thinking about each other, or even wanting
to see
each other again. They HAVE to wonder, and think about it everyday of
their
lives. I know that I had a best friend, that I am no longer friends
with, and
never see, and I think about her everyday, and it's been a few years.
(of
course we didnt go as far as killing to stay friends, lol) But just
being the
fact that they did go through all of that together, they must think
about each
other... killing someone isn't something you forget about, and I'm sure
it's
always on their minds. And even if Anne wanted to see Hillary again
(or vice
versa) I'm sure they wouldn't announce it for the world to know...being
that
it was terms of their release not to.
Just my input on some of this...
-Angie
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From: "B & B Library APCO" <LIB-APCO@balch.com>
Subject: Re: OT: DVD -Reply
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:56:58 -0500
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>>> Jeroen <nbk94@xs4all.nl> 07/17/98 01:28pm >>>
On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 14:55:50 +0100, Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
wrote:
We should all email/call/snail mail/fax miramax about this. Or even
better, criterion. I remember there were some rumours a while ago
about them releasing HC on laser.
--- When you say laser, I'm assuming you're talking about discs that
are about the size of a vinyl record, yes? If that is the case, a
couple years ago I saw the laser disc for HC in the music store. They
had it for US$34.00 (or was it $29?). I remember debating whether or
not to get it. I don't even have a laser disc player, so eventually I
talked myself out of buying it.
pam
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound etc.
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:36:22 +0200
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PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> I've never seen Bound, but since you guys all say its so great, I'm
all set to
> watch it Sun. at midnight on Sundance (in case anyone else wants to
see it.)
> I've called dibs on the TV (something you have to do when you have a
13 year
> old sister) and I can't wait to see it. Thanks for the recommendation
> everybody!
>
> Ava :)
Please let me know what you thought of it! (-:
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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001 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Coincidence?
002 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Labels...and such
003 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
004 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Parker and Hulmes
005 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Labels...and such
006 - Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@and - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Parker and Hulmes
008 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
009 - Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@and - Re: Bound & gagged
010 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Coincidence?
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:53:20 +0200
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PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
> How old are you, if you don't mind my asking. I'm 18 and
> confused - I have no label at the moment.
>
> Ava :)
Aren't we all...confused I mean... About the label; I'd say keep it that
way but if you really want one, 'confused' will do. *smiles*
No, for real...who wants a label anyway? Hetero-, homo- or bisexual, I
guess in the end we all want the same things: love, friendship,
appreciation and so on... If two people can give that to eachother, all
I can do is be happy for them...
And now it's time for me to catch some zzzz's!! NITE!!
Marloes
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Labels...and such
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:41:25 +0200
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Ald14hc@aol.com wrote:
>
> WOW! What a response (on the sexual prefrence thing). It just goes
to show
> you that labels don't really matter. We all joined this list with
one thing
> in common, and now we're starting to bond *awe* I told yall I felt
like I was
> in a group therepy session. But thats cool!
Yeah, looks like I joined this list just in time!! (-:
> BTW anyone live in the South. I'm in Louisiana (New Orleans), and I
haven't
> noticed anyone anywhere close to here?
Nope, not at all...I'm gonna spend about 5 months in Tennessee next year
though, that's a bit closer I guess (about half the world...hehe)
> And even if Anne wanted to see Hillary again (or vice
> versa) I'm sure they wouldn't announce it for the world to
know...being that
> it was terms of their release not to.
I guess you're right about that. Of course they weren't allowed to meet
eachother ever again, but what do you think would happen if they met?
Not between them I mean (although that's an interesting topic as well)
but it would be ridiculous if they were put in prison again or something
like that...
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:04:50 +0200
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StarScully@aol.com wrote:
>
> True, true... We are all guilty of categorizing people at some point
in our
> life. I think there's a whole yin yang thing to it. I mean
sometimes we look
> for people that have the same interests and look like us to feel
"accepted" or
> whatever, but when we see someone different from what we think is
normal then
> it's like we either joke them because we don't understand or just act
like
> they don't exist. I find it easier to just get to know people for
who they
> are. You know what they say about people who assume things...::::all
together
> class:::: You make an "Ass" out of "me" and "u" ... thank you for my
reading
> my little nugget of joy today.
>
> *janel*
Yes, that's all so true. It bothers me that so many people confuse
'weird' with 'different'. Someone in my class said I was strange when we
were in a hotel in Brussels (school-trip and everyone was drunk and you
know what they say about drunk people: they always tell the truth!)
Anyway, I was like...no, I'm not strange, I'm just
different...goodnight!
Now what I would like to know is what is 'normal'? If there is such a
thing at all, I'm glad that no one ever said I'm normal...gosh, now THAT
would be an insult!!! *smiles*
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Parker and Hulmes
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:29:33 EDT
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Wooohooooo!
My book order finally came thru, and i'm as excited as they come!
Gonna go
pick it up now, (Parker & Hulme; a Lesbian View), read it, and be back
on this
computer sharing my thoughts!
Just had to let all you lovely creatures know!
Nasrin
*LUV9*
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Labels...and such
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:54:16 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 18:07:52 EDT, you write:
<< Ald14hc@aol.com wrote:
>
> WOW! What a response (on the sexual prefrence thing). It just goes
to
show
> you that labels don't really matter. We all joined this list with
one
thing
> in common, and now we're starting to bond *awe* I told yall I felt
like I
was
> in a group therepy session. But thats cool!
Yeah, looks like I joined this list just in time!! (-:
>>
Me too! :-)
Ava
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From: Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:53:20 -0400 (EDT)
References: <199807171731.KAA22944@lists1.best.com>
In-Reply-To: <199807171731.KAA22944@lists1.best.com>
Excerpts from HC: 17-Jul-98 Re: Bound & gagged by PURPLEAVA@aol.com
> Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
college in
> Pittsburgh in the fall.
Which college? I go to Carnegie Mellon. ;)
- Z o e
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parker and Hulmes
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:58:14 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 18:46:30 EDT, you write:
<< Wooohooooo!
My book order finally came thru, and i'm as excited as they come!
Gonna go
pick it up now, (Parker & Hulme; a Lesbian View), read it, and be back
on
this
computer sharing my thoughts!
Just had to let all you lovely creatures know!
Nasrin
*LUV9* >>
Where did you order it from Nasrin? And how long did it take to get it?
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:56:55 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 18:08:04 EDT, you write:
<< Now what I would like to know is what is 'normal'? If there is such a
thing at all, I'm glad that no one ever said I'm normal...gosh, now
THAT
would be an insult!!! *smiles*
lyric
>>
There are 2 little things I can say about this:
#1) Normal is boring (that is why I'm so glad I'm very abnormal!)
And #2) It's normal to be weird and its weird to be normal.
Ava :)
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From: Zoe C Woodworth <zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:59:44 -0400 (EDT)
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Excerpts from HC: 17-Jul-98 Re: Bound & gagged by Jeroen@xs4all.nl
> I love morrissey, not only for his music but also for
> the person that he is, the things he says etc. But i'm in no way
> sexually attracted to him, nor do i want to be like him. The quiff is
> (erm used to be) pretty cool though :)
>
I, on the other hand, love Morissey's music and would also turn straight
for him any day of the week! Well, no, I really wouldn't. But I think
he's damn sexy.
One of my other past-times, aside from obsessively watching HC, is being
a Drag King, Nigel "Strange Fruit" Shankley, who only does Morrissey and
Smiths covers. I have his hair, sort of. (plus as an added bonus I will
never lose it due to male pattern baldness! bwahahaa.) I'm gonna scan
some drag piccies in and put them online soon, so stay tuned!
- Z o e
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:18:46 EDT
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WOW, leave for a few days and look at what happens. But do not get me
wrong
I think it is great, everyone has decided to share what gender they are
primarily or ven remotley attracted to. so you all know, my name is
Jennifer,
and I am (in label terms) a lesbian. However I wish I could just say
that I
love women, primarily. I am sure I could love a man, but then I go
somewhere
and see one do something just so typical, and I am thanking my lucky
stars I
am gay. No offense to males. But really, sexually, emotionally,
mentally,
and physically i am attracted to women. I can be attracted to a male,
I could
just never be to the point of sex, nor a lifelong partnership. That is
reserved for females.
I am 22 (almost 23) and I live in califronia. I used to live in New
Jersey,
and I worked in Philly. since there are a group of you in Pennsylvania.
Although western PA and Eastern PA could be considered 2 different
states.
The west is very Midwestern in valuses, whereas the east is more
liberal.
Like me.
Anyway, as for HC. I think that it is a great film. I do not believe
that
Kate Winslet is gay, even though I do wish it sometimes, and same with
Mel.
As for the scene, I believe the interpretation is up to the viewer, and
even
though it was a true life event, and the actual person says no they
weren't.
I do not thin at that time they would have labeled what they had. They
were
just In love. So maybe instead of asking Anne Perry if she had a
lesbian
relationship with Paulline Parker, they should ask, were you and
Pauline in
love with each other when you were 14-15 years old, s far. as what you
knew
what in love was at the time???? It gets rid of that anbnoying
stigmatism
that is on the label "lesbian".
Sorry, just had to say that. Hello to everyone I have not said hello to
before. Ava, Angie, both Kates, and lyric.
PS Angie How is the weather in The Big easy ?
and what is evryones age again, and location. Have not heard in a
while. If
asked recently just tell me how to read the archives.
Jennifer EMT-B
"The best people fight through all obstacles in pursuit of happiness."
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n838 --------------
001 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: Parker and Hulmes
003 - crystal <beckwith@Oswego. - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - PRIVATE POSTS (pleeeze read)
005 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: my thoughts
006 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
007 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
008 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
009 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
010 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:23:12 EDT
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One other note
1. Gina Gershon did play a character named "Coral" however it was in
the Tom
Cruise movie "Cocktail" not sweet revenge as someone wrote.
2. Not sure if you all know this, but the singer Morrisey, he is gay,
he has
ben open about it for some time. Not sure if you all were aware of
that.
3. Anyone else think that Angelina Jolie is HOT!!! let me know,
directly, no
need to burden this list with non HC posts!!! :-)
Hope you are all having a great day.
Jennifer EMT-B
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: Parker and Hulmes
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:36:47 EDT
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In a message dated 7/17/98 4:11:29 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
PURPLEAVA@aol.com writes:
<< Wooohooooo!
My book order finally came thru, and i'm as excited as they come!
Gonna
go
pick it up now, (Parker & Hulme; a Lesbian View), read it, and be
back on
this
computer sharing my thoughts!
Just had to let all you lovely creatures know!
Nasrin
*LUV9* >>
Where did you order it from Nasrin? And how long did it take to get
it?
Ava :) >>
I ordered it from Barnes & Noble, and it took exactly a week to
get it.
=)
Nasrin.
*LUV9*
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From: crystal <beckwith@Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:45:46 -0400 (EDT)
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Well I'm in a sharing kinda mood so here ya go:
Crystal
age:19
from: upstate NY area
lesbian (although I HATE that word...I think I'm going to have to come
up
wiht one of my own to use instead. =)
______________________________________________________________________________
*"We have decided how sad it is for other people that they cannot
appreciate our genious."-Pauline Parker*
*"Love is tender and knows no gender"-unknown*
*"I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!"-unknown*
_______________________________________________________________________________
On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
>
> << A while back we collected statistics about people on this mailing
list,
> but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
> sexual orientation or identity.
> come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)? >>
>
> im bisexual =)
> ~joanna~
>
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: PRIVATE POSTS (pleeeze read)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 19:58:38 -0400
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PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
><< Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep. >>
>
>Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
college in
>Pittsburgh in the fall.
>
>Ava :)
Just an observation.
There has been over 80 postings on this list in the last 24 hours and a
lot of them are really meant for a single reader.
Please be considerate. If you have a reply to someone in particular,
reply to that address, not the whole list.
We've had this sort of problem before and it caused many listers to
drop
out because they couldn't handle the cumulative number of postings.
It's a great thing that listers are connecting, but please help keep
this
list from deteriorating.
Thanks.
(:^)]
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: my thoughts
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 19:51:17 -0400
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lyric wrote:
>I am positive that they
>wonder about eachother...how could they not?
For one very good reason: everything they had to live through that we
didn't see in the movie. While most of us have only seen what the film
has portrayed, life for the two girls was anything but pleasant after
the
murder and resentment set in. You can see in interviews with Anne how
she
basically feels she was drawn into Pauline's obsession. She basically
said she felt emotionally blackmailed into it.
I guess this is where my age shows but, after you hit your thirties you
do realize that love made you do some pretty stupid things and you
spend
a lot of time fixing the havock caused by your hormones when you were
younger.
(:^)]
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:56:16 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 19:30:24 EDT, you write:
<< Sorry, just had to say that. Hello to everyone I have not said
hello to
before. Ava, Angie, both Kates, and lyric.
and what is evryones age again, and location. Have not heard in a
while. If
asked recently just tell me how to read the archives.
Jennifer EMT-B >>
I have no idea how to read the archives, so I'll just tell you my age
and loc.
I'm 18, I live in Baltimore right now, but I'm going to college in
Pittsburgh
in the fall. And welcome back!
Ava :)
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:21:14 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 10:30:46 EDT, you write:
<< i thought it was so cute when she said "1 minute 5 seconds, you are
such my
> bitch"...hehe
> ~joanna~
>
Me too I love her voice! Its so sexy hehehe!
Love
kate
X >>
I KNOW!! joey has the cutest, most adorable little voice ever!! not to
mention
the fact that she is also a great actress!! =)
~joanna~
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:20:52 -0700 (PDT)
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OKAY now all 3 of us have to meet! I live in Hermitage Pennsylvania.
Thats 1 and a half up from Pitts. And 10 minutes from Ohio!
Love
Kate
X
---Zoe C Woodworth wrote:
>
> Excerpts from HC: 17-Jul-98 Re: Bound & gagged by PURPLEAVA@aol.com
> > Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
college in
> > Pittsburgh in the fall.
>
> Which college? I go to Carnegie Mellon. ;)
>
> - Z o e
>
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--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n838.9 ---------------
From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 17:26:46 -0700 (PDT)
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---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-17 19:30:24 EDT, you write:
>
> << Sorry, just had to say that. Hello to everyone I have not said
hello to
> before. Ava, Angie, both Kates, and lyric.
>
> and what is evryones age again, and location. Have not heard in a
while. If
> asked recently just tell me how to read the archives.
>
> Jennifer EMT-B >>
>
> I have no idea how to read the archives, so I'll just tell you my
age and loc.
> I'm 18, I live in Baltimore right now, but I'm going to college in
Pittsburgh
> in the fall. And welcome back!
>
> Ava :)
>
I am from Hermitage Pennsylvania. Thats 1 and 1/2 hours up from Pitts
and 10 minutes from Ohio!
I am 15. But I look and act like I am 22 :)
Love
Kate
X
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--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n838.10 ---------------
From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 20:25:43 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 13:47:21 EDT, you write:
<< Sorry, that's not what I meant to say...I was talking about the
SG-fans
here...which you are obviously not! (-:
>>
oh okie...no prob =)
~joanna~
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n839 --------------
001 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
003 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
004 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: my thoughts
005 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
006 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Outing time!
007 - "GimmeSomeLovin" <slw@cap - Re: Bound & gagged
008 - "GimmeSomeLovin" <slw@cap - Re: Bound & gagged
009 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Outing time!
010 - Edna Kemper <Netdance@wor - it's me again...
--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n839.1 ---------------
From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:07:08 EDT
MIME-Version: 1.0
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In a message dated 98-07-17 20:10:52 EDT, you write:
<< Well I'm in a sharing kinda mood so here ya go:
Crystal
age:19
from: upstate NY area
lesbian (although I HATE that word...I think I'm going to have to come
up
wiht one of my own to use instead. =)
>>
Yeah, I think there should definately be a new word for it! I've just
been
dubbed 'confused' by Marloes (Lyric). I think that adequately
describes my
feelings on the subject of sexual orientation. (I hate that phrase
too. It
sounds like research for a stuffy medical journal. It lists statistics
for the
"sexual orientation" of different age groups, then goes on to discuss
the
"moral decay of today's youth" LOL)
Well, Talk to you later!
Ava :)
--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n839.2 ---------------
From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: well said Kate (winslett311)
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:38:36 -0700 (PDT)
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Well it is a good movie :)
Love
Kate
X
---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> Now here's another movie you all have convinced me I must see. Time
to check
> the cable listings for the month!
>
> Ava :)
>
> In a message dated 98-07-17 10:05:57 EDT, you write:
>
> << << YES!!! I love that movie!!! I understand completely. I will
get back
> to you tomorrow on that line its too late to think. but my fav line
> from that movie is "Whats a nuebian? Bitch, you almost made me
laugh!"
> I love that part and "This pile of PMS is Alyssa Jones" Oh I have
too
> many fav lines you get the drift now I must get to sleep the whole
> message board thing got me all upset and I know I am going to be
> crying my self to sleep tonight. Goodnight
> Love
> Kate
> X >>
>
> i thought it was so cute when she said "1 minute 5 seconds, you are
such my
> bitch"...hehe
> ~joanna~ >>
>
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--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n839.3 ---------------
From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:45:15 -0700 (PDT)
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I live in Pennsylvania also! well wait this is a repeat hehehe!
---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-17 08:04:41 EDT, you write:
>
> << Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep. >>
>
> Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
college in
> Pittsburgh in the fall.
>
> Ava :)
>
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--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n839.4 ---------------
From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: my thoughts
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 21:45:20 EDT
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In a message dated 7/17/98 5:12:09 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
orson@videotron.ca writes:
<< You can see in interviews with Anne how she
basically feels she was drawn into Pauline's obsession. She basically
said she felt emotionally blackmailed into it.
I guess this is where my age shows but, after you hit your thirties
you
do realize that love made you do some pretty stupid things and you
spend
a lot of time fixing the havock caused by your hormones when you were
younger. >>
So, out of curiosity, do you believe that Anne now has feelings
of
resentment towards Pauline? I mean, regardless of whether or not she
did in
fact "emotionally blackmail" her...they did share so much..and only a
fragment
of that was shown to us in the movie.
I'd love to see what you creatures think.
Nasrin.
*LUV9*
--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n839.5 ---------------
From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:48:47 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
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---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> In a message dated 98-07-17 02:37:55 EDT, you write:
>
> << Damn it! Why do I have to live in Pennsylvania! Always so far
away!!
> DAMN THE DISTANCE!!!! hehehe
> Love
> Kate
> X >>
>
> Where in PA do you live? I'm going to college in Pittsburgh this
fall.
>
> Ava :)
>
Ahh I have answered this a million times hehheheeh! I live in
Hermitage thats 1 and 1/2 hours up from Pitts and 10 minutes from Ohio
:)
Love
Kate
X
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--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n839.6 ---------------
From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Outing time!
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:21:22 -0300
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References: <199807172346.QAA22752@lists1.best.com>
Right, my turn now.
Age: 21.
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil (ha, farthest of all!)
Sexual orientation: lesbian, not so out but very proud ;)
:*
Juliana.
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From: "GimmeSomeLovin" <slw@capecod.net>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:19:30 -0700
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can someone tell me how to get off this list?
Mystic Zelda Marilyn Hanson
Taylor's Part
"Well I heard about the fella you've been dancing with
all over the neighbourhood.
So why didn't you ask me baby,
or didn't you think I could..."
Well I know that the Boogiloo is out of sight
But the shangaling she's playing tonight
But if that were you and me hotta baby
I'd come to show you how to do right
Do it right, uh-huh do it right
Do it right, do it right, do it right
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Twisting, shake-it shake-it shake-it
Shake-it baby
Twisting, shake-it shake-it shake-it
Shake-it baby
----------
> From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
> To: heavenly-c@lists.best.com
> Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
> Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 6:45 PM
>
>
>
> I live in Pennsylvania also! well wait this is a repeat hehehe!
>
>
>
> ---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 98-07-17 08:04:41 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep. >>
> >
> > Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
> college in
> > Pittsburgh in the fall.
> >
> > Ava :)
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
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From: "GimmeSomeLovin" <slw@capecod.net>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 22:20:04 -0700
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can someone tell me how to get off this list
Mystic Zelda Marilyn Hanson
Taylor's Part
"Well I heard about the fella you've been dancing with
all over the neighbourhood.
So why didn't you ask me baby,
or didn't you think I could..."
Well I know that the Boogiloo is out of sight
But the shangaling she's playing tonight
But if that were you and me hotta baby
I'd come to show you how to do right
Do it right, uh-huh do it right
Do it right, do it right, do it right
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Twisting, shake-it shake-it shake-it
Shake-it baby
Twisting, shake-it shake-it shake-it
Shake-it baby
----------
> From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
> To: heavenly-c@lists.best.com
> Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
> Date: Friday, July 17, 1998 6:45 PM
>
>
>
> I live in Pennsylvania also! well wait this is a repeat hehehe!
>
>
>
> ---PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > In a message dated 98-07-17 08:04:41 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << Hey, so how come nobody asked me where _I_ live? weep, weep. >>
> >
> > Where do you live Zoe? I live in Baltimore now, but I'm going to
> college in
> > Pittsburgh in the fall.
> >
> > Ava :)
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Outing time!
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 19:37:07 -0700 (PDT)
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Age: 15
Location: Hermitage Pennsylvania
Sexual orientation: bisexual, leaning more towards the females. I am
not out to everyone only a few.
Love
Kate
X
---Juliana Bastos wrote:
>
> Right, my turn now.
>
> Age: 21.
> Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil (ha, farthest of all!)
> Sexual orientation: lesbian, not so out but very proud ;)
>
> :*
> Juliana.
>
>
>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Edna Kemper <Netdance@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: it's me again...
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:19:14 -0700
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hmm, i haven't read the list in a while. i suppose 'life' has gotten me
down. but, hell, i actually have a job now, which means, in turn, i am
earning money. WHAHOO! YAY! JOY! there are SO many new listers, of whom
i do not know, and do not know me, so it feels odd to actually be
posting and have everyone thing "well, just who IS this weird little
girl?" but anyway, i suppose i'd share some other things about the long
absent me in this little sexual orientation survey. you know. to
reintroduce myself. i've been on the list for almost 2 YEARS! pretty
long time.
anywho, I am Jennifer. Jen. Jenny. mostly Jen. I'm 17 years old, and
from Minnesota. a very boring suburban area of minnesota. oh well.
anyway, I am a lesbian, though i really don't like classifying people in
and category. it just seems to me there's a bigger picture to things.
but i just don't find myself interested in men. actually, i've been so
busy recently, i havent had time for a relationship of any kind, be it
female, male, plant, cat, sheep, TV, computer, alien or whatnot.
wow. it's been such a long time since i've posted anything. or READ
anything for that matter. wait. i already said that. wasting space i
suppose, especially since this has nothiong to do with HC.
but, since i am ALREADY wasting listspace, i have another unrelated
topic, or question, or whathaveyou. I wondered if anyone here likes the
film "All Over Me", by the Sichel sisters, starring Alison Folland (of
"to die for") and Tara Subkoff. I loved HC for years...but once i saw
All Over me, it rose to the top of my all time favorite film list. It's
critics accuse it of being melodramatic, and true, it does get that way
for a few VERY BREIF scenes, but i think that it has so much reality to
it. I for one, identified with Claude immensely. Folland is an amazing
actress. I think it's a very honest movie. it's nothing very much like
HC, but still a fabulous film nonetheless.
well, expect to be hearing from me more:
-Jen
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001 - SHERIMER@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
002 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: Outing time!
003 - SHERIMER@aol.com - Re: Outing time!
004 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
005 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Bound & gagged
006 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: PRIVATE POSTS (pleeeze read)
007 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: my thoughts
008 - Jane Fribit <recurring@ya - OT: Homosexuality... the list
statistics
009 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - Ordering & stuff.
010 - Phil West <pgw16@hermes.c - Many Thoughts on Questions
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From: SHERIMER@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:49:47 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
<< come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besides
me)?
how does our own sexuality play into what we "read" into J & P and
their
relationship? >>
I'm bisexual.
--Steve
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: Outing time!
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:00:10 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 23:05:36 EDT, you write:
<< Age: 15
Location: Hermitage Pennsylvania
Sexual orientation: bisexual, leaning more towards the females. I am
not out to everyone only a few.
Love
Kate
X >>
age: 15
location: randolph, mass
sexual orientation: bisexual, prefers females but still havent
completely
eliminated the possibility of becoming imvolved with a male...and im
out to
everyone i know...except maybe my boss...i dont think she knows =)
~joanna~
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From: SHERIMER@aol.com
Subject: Re: Outing time!
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 01:08:07 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-17 22:20:15 EDT, you write:
<< Right, my turn now.
Age: 21.
Location: Sao Paulo, Brazil (ha, farthest of all!)
Sexual orientation: lesbian, not so out but very proud ;) >>
Right, my turn again.
Age: 17
Location: Virginia
Sexual Orientation: I had orginally written bi. Now after reading all
the
other posts I feel more comofortable telling everyone that I am gay,
all the
way. I don't know for sure why I lied at first, it's just hard to be
judged. I
guess for a moment I forgot I was on the HC list, with a lot of non
judgmental
people!
--Steve
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Labels (was Lesbians)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:26:24 +0200
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PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
> There are 2 little things I can say about this:
> #1) Normal is boring (that is why I'm so glad I'm very abnormal!)
> And #2) It's normal to be weird and its weird to be normal.
>
> Ava :)
Well, glad to know I'm not boring...tee heee! And still I'm normal in a
way (since i'm 'weird' to some people) *grin*
Marloes
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:32:33 +0200
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IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> Sorry, just had to say that. Hello to everyone I have not said hello
to
> before. Ava, Angie, both Kates, and lyric.
Hello to you too!! (-: I guess you got like 200 emails when you arrived
home, huh? (-:
> and what is evryones age again, and location. Have not heard in a
while.
My stats: 20, Netherlands, student journalism...
Take care,
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: PRIVATE POSTS (pleeeze read)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:54:37 +0200
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E. Jean Guerin wrote:
> It's a great thing that listers are connecting, but please help keep
this
> list from deteriorating.
Okay, you're right about that, and since everything's lear now...things
might just as well turn back to normal...
So please use my addy if you want to ask me anything at all...it's not
like I don't want to answer out in the open, but there have been to many
non-HC posts lately. Don't get me wrong: I loved to read them all, I
wrote a lot myself!! But I can imagine that there are people who don't
want to read them, and 80 a day is a lot....
Take care, and since I'm in a good mood this morning (((hugs))) (-:
lyric
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: my thoughts
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:43:35 +0200
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E. Jean Guerin wrote:
> For one very good reason: everything they had to live through that we
> didn't see in the movie. While most of us have only seen what the film
> has portrayed, life for the two girls was anything but pleasant after
the
> murder and resentment set in. You can see in interviews with Anne how
she
> basically feels she was drawn into Pauline's obsession. She basically
> said she felt emotionally blackmailed into it.
Yes, of course they feel sorry for what they did...that's what I hope at
least. And of course they built up another life without eachother, but
you can't tell me they never think about eachother!! That doesn't
necessarily mean they would like to be with eachother again, but I just
tyhink they do wonder about how the other one's doing...
> I guess this is where my age shows but, after you hit your thirties
you
> do realize that love made you do some pretty stupid things and you
spend
> a lot of time fixing the havock caused by your hormones when you were
> younger.
Okay, I'm nowhere near thirty, but still here's my motto: instead of
regretting the things you did, regret the things you didn't do! (-:
Take care,
Marloes
--
He was on the airplane ~ Sittin' next to this guy ~
Said he wasn't too shy ~ And he seemed real nice ~
Until he found out he was gay ~ That's so not mellow ~
LET'S GET FREE * Janet, Free Xone, Velvet Rope
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From: Jane Fribit <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: OT: Homosexuality... the list statistics
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 00:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
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Although I am bi, I do not think that that affected my liking towards
HC. Just want to emphasise that even if I was completely straight - I
still would have liked it the same. :o))
Later perhaps.
Jane~~ (the australian bi-sexual)
In a message dated 7/16/98 7:18:34 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu writes:
<< A while back we collected statistics about people on this
mailinglist,
but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
sexual orientation or identity.
come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians (besidesme)?
how does our own sexuality play into what we "read" into J & P andtheir
relationship? >>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
Subject: Ordering & stuff.
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:21:24 +0100
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Hiya all,
I have read alot about people getting various HC memrobellia over the
net. I am assuming that you are using Virtual malls and a credit card. I
have always been tempted to try this out, but a) have been put by the
scaremongoring and B) Don't have a credit card and would have to use
someone else's (with their permission). What I am curious about is
A) can you order stuff from word-wide sites. I.E I'm in England yet
could I order stuff to be delivered from America and have it delivered?
B) How quick and and cost efficient is this? (.I.E Freight charges etc.)
Just curious to try it out and what better way than with a HC product.
What sort of "Stuff" is out there ?
What is the best HC related item that people have aqquired?
Personally, I am soooo glad I have the soundtrack. Since buying it I
can't find it anymore and I love listening to it. My friends at the
office now like it and love singing along with Mario ! It is by far the
best Film soundtrack I have ever bought (not that I buy many).
Stephen.
" Hey! Isn't it that Irish singer . . . Murray O' Lanza?" Herbert Reiper
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Hiya all,
<P>I have read alot about people getting various HC memrobellia over the
net. I am assuming that you are using Virtual malls and a credit card.
I have always been tempted to try this out, but a) have been put
by the scaremongoring and B) Don't have a credit card and would have to
use someone else's (with their permission). What I am curious about is
<P>A) can you order stuff from word-wide sites. I.E I'm in England yet
could I order stuff to be delivered from America and have it delivered?
<P>B) How quick and and cost efficient is this? (.I.E Freight charges
etc.)
<P>Just curious to try it out and what better way than with a HC
product.
What sort of "Stuff" is out there ?
<P>What is the best HC related item that people have aqquired?
<P>Personally, I am soooo glad I have the soundtrack. Since buying it I
can't find it anymore and I love listening to it. My friends at the
office
now like it and love singing along with Mario ! It is by far the best
Film
soundtrack I have ever bought (not that I buy many).
<BR>
<P>Stephen.
<P><I>" Hey! Isn't it that Irish singer . . . Murray O' Lanza?" Herbert
Reiper</I>
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From: Phil West <pgw16@hermes.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Many Thoughts on Questions
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:21:48 +0100 (BST)
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Hi Creatures.
'Were Pauline and Juliet lesbians?'.
Compare these questions:
'Were Ronald Reagan and JFK Presidents of the USA?'
'Was it sunny yesterday?'
'Were you happy yesterday?'
'What is your name?'
'Were you a human being yesterday?'
'Was Trotsky a good man?'
When we ask a question it is usually for one of three reasons. (1) We
want some information we don't have, relative to something we are doing
or
wish to do, eg. 'What is the time, please?'; (2) We want to see if
someone
will respond in a certain way to our inquiry - most often, we already
know
some information which our question purports to be asking - eg. 'Did you
eat the last piece of pizza?'; (3) We want to prompt a general
disquisition into a subject and recognise that there can be no essential
answer, eg. 'Was George Orwell a socialist?'; 'Should taxes be higher?'
The question 'Were Pauline and Juliet lesbians' might be asked for any
of
the above reasons. If we ask it in the first sense, we believe that
there
IS an answer, that 'being a lesbian' or 'not being a lesbian' is a fact
in
the same way being President of the USA is a fact. We are possibly
narrow-minded, possibly polemically-inclined (think of 'Outing'
campaigns). If we ask in the second sense, we are interested in the
(possibly prejudicial) reactions of others, having already made up our
own
mind. If we ask in the third, we want our interlocutor to think about
what
it is to 'be a lesbian', or to think that one can 'be' that thing in the
same way one can have blue eyes or small feet. It is not always clear
in
which way a question is being asked until the asker responds to the
answer
s/he has received.
The question 'Were Pauline and Juliet lesbians' has no answer while we
think of 'lesbian' as a trans-historical term which exists outside of
its
historically-convened uses. It's like asking 'Was John Milton
religious?'; the word 'religious' meant something totally different in
the
17th century &, frankly, no one can agree on what it means now. It's
like
describing Ancient Greece and the USA as democracies, whilst
considering a
slave society to be anti-democratic.
Historically, 'lesbian' has been used as an insult, a 'polite' euphemism
and a term of medical psychology as well as - maybe - a neutral term of
description: different senses to different people at different times.
Those of you who hate the word being used (I - a man who lives with a
woman - certainly find it strange, too) probably aren't from Lesbos, nor
are you gifted poets, a sense of Lesbian used in the Renaissance because
of Sappho. Unless you are a mason, you probably don't own a lesbian
rule
(it's for making curves in arches; this is the sense in which Aristotle
uses the word), nor are you necessarily pliant and accomodating, the
vague
sense in which the word was often used in the 17th century (of men and
women). You have never tasted Lesbian wine (nor Chian or Coan, other
Greek wines), though many eighteenth century folk had.
The modern sense of 'lesbian' we owe to the sexually-ambivalent
Victorians. It is recorded from about 1870 onwards; in 1892, the rather
beautiful word 'lesbic' was used as an adjectival form by a mad
Victorian
psychologist to deplore any kind of strong love between women; the
colloquial and sometimes perjorative 'lesbo' appears from 1940 onwards,
appearing, for instance, among the brilliant dialects captured in the
work
of Chester Himes. Before 'lesbianism' became common usage, all kinds of
terms were reache for. ('Tribadism' is about par for the course).
For Medlicott, the psychologist who examined Pauline and Juliet, lesbian
meant a kind of deviant psychology causing women to be sexually
attracted
to women. Powerless in the grip of his medical training, he was clear
that the girls were lesbians. He felt no urge to challenge that term,
or
the umbrella of meanings beneath it because (i) he was working for the
police, who demand 'facts'; (ii) more crucially, his society didn't
approve of single-sex relationships and therefore hardly ever even spoke
the word. It was left up to psychologists to choose the terms for
describing 'conditions', and so 'lesbian' remained. It's very notable
that as society loosens up a bit - I tend to exaggerate how much, since
I
live in quite an enlightened place (Cambridge is not the place it was in
the days of Henry Hulme, though the number of female academics are still
deplorably low) - other terms have come to the fore. This may be
because
it isn't only psychologists who are doing the choosing. I don't know
what
people think of terms like 'dike/dyke' or 'gay', or all the sub-terms
like
'fem', 'butch' and so on; but they are undoubtedly 20th century words :
the first two originated in the 1930s - perhaps after the fashion for
lesbian chic (oops, there I go..!) in the 20s? 'Butch' is a 1950s
coinage; perhap 'fem' came with it (I can't find a reference for it).
Sorry to go on! All this boils down to is, when someone asks a
difficult
question, interrogate the terms of it and examine the ways in which the
qustion is suggesting you answer.
My questions would be these:
'Did Pauline and Juliet come to love each other during 1953?'
'Was their love ever expressed physically?'
'When they made love as the Saints, weren't they in one sense imitating
homosexual sex among men?'
[In Jean's big scene with Kate, Paul becomes Orson; but all it
says in Pauline's Diary is that they enacted how each Saint would make
love in bed. Doesn't say who with. They could just as easily have each
taken on a male role. What do people think of this possibility?]
'Isn't Pauline's description of enacting with Juliet very touching,
moving
and naively suggestive of sexual afterglow?'
OK, signing off because I have to go and get made a Doctor today, in an
antiquated ceremony which will bore me to tears.
Hope I haven't bored you all to tears.
Phil
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001 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: OT: DVD -Reply
002 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - ot: morrissey
003 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: it's me again...
004 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: PRIVATE POSTS (pleeeze read)
005 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Ordering & stuff.
006 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: ot: morrissey
007 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: OT: Homosexuality... the list
statistics
008 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
009 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Answering a million times
010 - "Rob Wilks" <robert.wilks - Unsubscribing...
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: OT: DVD -Reply
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:45:04 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 13:56:58 -0500, "B & B Library APCO"
<LIB-APCO@balch.com> wrote:
>>>> Jeroen <nbk94@xs4all.nl> 07/17/98 01:28pm >>>
>
>We should all email/call/snail mail/fax miramax about this. Or even
>better, criterion. I remember there were some rumours a while ago
>about them releasing HC on laser.
>
>--- When you say laser, I'm assuming you're talking about discs that
are about the size of a vinyl record, yes?
Yes i meant laserdisc.
>I don't even have a laser disc player, so eventually I talked myself
out of buying it.
Get a player, you won't regret it. The HC laserdisc is still pretty
easy to find, just order it from www.kencranes.com. It's the 2.35:1
widescreen US cut, and the quality is pretty good, for a laserdisc.
And of course compared to vhs it's video heaven.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: ot: morrissey
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:45:06 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:59:44 -0400 (EDT), Zoe C Woodworth
<zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>One of my other past-times, aside from obsessively watching HC, is
being
>a Drag King, Nigel "Strange Fruit" Shankley, who only does Morrissey
and
>Smiths covers. I have his hair, sort of. (plus as an added bonus I will
>never lose it due to male pattern baldness! bwahahaa.) I'm gonna scan
>some drag piccies in and put them online soon, so stay tuned!
Looking forward to them :)
Hey, just curious, what are your favorite moz/smiths songs? Mine are
girl least likely to
well i wonder
i don't owe you anything
maladjusted
how soon is now (which btw was on the brilliant THE CRAFT soundtrack,
performed by another band)
And for lyrical content:
meat is murder
the queen is dead.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: it's me again...
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:45:07 GMT
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On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 23:19:14 -0700, Edna Kemper
<Netdance@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>but, since i am ALREADY wasting listspace, i have another unrelated
>topic, or question, or whathaveyou. I wondered if anyone here likes the
>film "All Over Me", by the Sichel sisters, starring Alison Folland (of
>"to die for") and Tara Subkoff. I loved HC for years...but once i saw
>All Over me, it rose to the top of my all time favorite film list. It's
>critics accuse it of being melodramatic, and true, it does get that way
>for a few VERY BREIF scenes, but i think that it has so much reality to
>it. I for one, identified with Claude immensely. Folland is an amazing
>actress. I think it's a very honest movie. it's nothing very much like
>HC, but still a fabulous film nonetheless.
I ordered ALL OVER ME 2 weeks ago, but it hasn't arrived yet. Damn
usps! :(
I haven't seen the film yet, but i read some reviews and it sounds
very interesting. Tell me, why do you like it better than HC? Is it
because you can identify so much with one of the characters or do you
also like it better as a film? What i'm trying to say is that i love
a lot of films solely for the way they look, you know like the power
of the images and imagery. HC is one of those films. I was wondering
how ALL OVER ME rates in that category.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: PRIVATE POSTS (pleeeze read)
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:25:49 GMT
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On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:54:37 +0200, lyric <dalyric@writeme.com> wrote:
>So please use my addy if you want to ask me anything at all...it's not
>like I don't want to answer out in the open, but there have been to
many
>non-HC posts lately. Don't get me wrong: I loved to read them all, I
>wrote a lot myself!! But I can imagine that there are people who don't
>want to read them, and 80 a day is a lot....
For what it's worth, i love the recent increase in activity. I guess
we could do without all the 'where do you live' posts, but it's still
better than the TITANIC crap from a few months ago.
Hey marloes where do you live in the netherlands? I'm in gendringen
on the german border. And i studied business economics at the HEAO in
arnhem.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Ordering & stuff.
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 12:25:49 GMT
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On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 10:21:24 +0100, Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
wrote:
>A) can you order stuff from word-wide sites. I.E I'm in England yet
>could I order stuff to be delivered from America and have it delivered?
Yeah no problem. I'm in europe too and i order stuff from the US all
the time. Like posters, dvd's, laserdiscs and a/v equipment. The
only thing you have to worry about is customs, especially in the UK.
I've read messages from brits ordering horror or porn dvd's from the
US and it turned out customs trashed all dvd's in the package,
including titles that aren't even banned like disney cartoons etc.
And then there's the tax issue of course. But, just ask the sender to
put down a lower value on the customs declaration, and make sure they
DON'T include the invoice in the package.
>B) How quick and and cost efficient is this? (.I.E Freight charges
etc.)
Depends on the freight company. My dvd's are shipped via usps, and
they charge a $5 flat rate + $2 per disc. They usually arrive within
10 days. My dvd player was shipped via fedex express mail (arrived
within 48 hours) for $75. And, my projector, a 120 pounds package,
was handled by emmery worldwide for $250. Delivery took 7 days
including a 3-day delay at amsterdam airport.
>Just curious to try it out and what better way than with a HC product.
>What sort of "Stuff" is out there ?
try www.pixposters.com. They have lost of stuff, like posters and
lobby card sets.
>What is the best HC related item that people have aqquired?
I love my french poster. I have 6 different HC posters, but the
french one is my favorite. And i love the german lobby cards too.
>Personally, I am soooo glad I have the soundtrack. Since buying it I
>can't find it anymore and I love listening to it. My friends at the
>office now like it and love singing along with Mario ! It is by far the
>best Film soundtrack I have ever bought (not that I buy many).
Hmm, i don't know, the sound quality of the cd is pretty poor imo,
it's like the dynamic range is different for each song. My favorite
soundtrack cd's are NBK (trent reznor is a god) and GAS FOOD LODGING.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: ot: morrissey
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 07:59:25 -0700 (PDT)
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---Jeroen wrote:
>
> On Fri, 17 Jul 1998 18:59:44 -0400 (EDT), Zoe C Woodworth
> <zcw+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>
> >One of my other past-times, aside from obsessively watching HC, is
being
> >a Drag King, Nigel "Strange Fruit" Shankley, who only does
Morrissey and
> >Smiths covers. I have his hair, sort of. (plus as an added bonus I
will
> >never lose it due to male pattern baldness! bwahahaa.) I'm gonna scan
> >some drag piccies in and put them online soon, so stay tuned!
>
> Looking forward to them :)
>
> Hey, just curious, what are your favorite moz/smiths songs? Mine are
>
> girl least likely to
> well i wonder
> i don't owe you anything
> maladjusted
> how soon is now (which btw was on the brilliant THE CRAFT soundtrack,
> performed by another band)
>
> And for lyrical content:
>
> meat is murder
> the queen is dead.
>
> --
> Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
> All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
> It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
>
I have the Craft sound track its briliant!
Love
Kate
X
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: OT: Homosexuality... the list statistics
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 17:04:20 +0200
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Jane Fribit wrote:
> Although I am bi, I do not think that that affected my liking towards
> HC. Just want to emphasise that even if I was completely straight - I
> still would have liked it the same. :o))
Same goes for me, I guess... What attracted me in the film in the first
place was the fantasyworld that those two created to escape from
reality... Something they had, and no one else could have, wonderful!
lyric
--
This is just between me, and you, and you ~ Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 11:53:29 -0700 (PDT)
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So your from the NY area do you ever make your way down into the pa
ohio area ? hehehe
Love
Kate
X
---crystal wrote:
>
> Well I'm in a sharing kinda mood so here ya go:
>
> Crystal
> age:19
> from: upstate NY area
> lesbian (although I HATE that word...I think I'm going to have to
come up
> wiht one of my own to use instead. =)
>
>
______________________________________________________________________________
> *"We have decided how sad it is for other people that they cannot
> appreciate our genious."-Pauline Parker*
>
> *"Love is tender and knows no gender"-unknown*
>
> *"I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!"-unknown*
>
_______________________________________________________________________________
>
> On Thu, 16 Jul 1998 LaSkA4u@aol.com wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 98-07-16 22:18:34 EDT, you write:
> >
> > << A while back we collected statistics about people on this
mailing list,
> > but there was one kind of important one that was missing...people's
> > sexual orientation or identity.
> > come on, let's not be shy. fess up everybody! any lesbians
(besides me)? >>
> >
> > im bisexual =)
> > ~joanna~
> >
>
>
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Answering a million times
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 98 15:07:09 -0400
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Kate McFarland wrote:
>Ahh I have answered this a million times hehheheeh!
It certainly feels like it!
Please reply to the individual! Not the list.
This list has become unmanageable in a short period of time.
While I applaud the increased activity, I deplore the increased number
in
SPAM.
Please be considerate.
Thank you.
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Subject: Unsubscribing...
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:36:49 +0100
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Hey guys
I'm sure you don't want to be bothered by someone who wants to
unsubcribe
from this cool list, but I really need to unsubscribe! I'm going away
soon,
and I want to leave all the mailing lists I'm on, but I'm having
difficulty
with this one, so could someone please tell me how I can do so?
What was the website URL where we joined this list from in the first
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I seem to have lost it!
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001 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: OT: Homosexuality... the list
statistics
002 - dalyric@writeme.com - Re: OT: Homosexuality... the list
statistics
003 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Answering a million times
004 - Edna Kemper <Netdance@wor - Re: all over me
005 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: all over me
006 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Answering a million times
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: Homosexuality... the list statistics
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 15:44:02 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-18 03:50:39 EDT, you write:
<< Although I am bi, I do not think that that affected my liking towards
HC. Just want to emphasise that even if I was completely straight - I
still would have liked it the same. :o)) >>
the reason i became interested in HC at first is becuz i heard that kate
winslet played a lesbian character in it...and since i was bi i thought
that
it'd be cool to see that gorgeous girl from titanic play a lesbian...so
i
guess for me, my sexual orientation made me interested in it at first =)
~joanna~
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From: dalyric@writeme.com
Subject: Re: OT: Homosexuality... the list statistics
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:26:26 +0100
>In a message dated 98-07-18 03:50:39 EDT, you write:
>
><< Although I am bi, I do not think that that affected my
liking towards
> HC. Just want to emphasise that even if I was completely
straight - I
> still would have liked it the same. :o)) >>
>
>the reason i became interested in HC at first is becuz i heard
that kate
>winslet played a lesbian character in it...and since i was bi i
thought that
>it'd be cool to see that gorgeous girl from titanic play a
lesbian...so i
>guess for me, my sexual orientation made me interested in it at
first =)
>~joanna~
>
I was babysitting when the BBC broadcasted it and I zapped back
and forth between some film, one about some psycho woman who
terrorized everyone and the other one I can't even remember... I
forgot all about HC, and the next morning my mom said she taped
it for me cuz I put a fat arrow next to it the week before!!! I
was like...ohh..okay thanks. So out of politeness I put in the
tape and watched it under my breakfast...LONG breakfast that
was!!!! (I watched it twice that morning...hehe)
lyric
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Answering a million times
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:41:17 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-18 15:14:17 EDT, you write:
<< It certainly feels like it!
Please reply to the individual! Not the list.
This list has become unmanageable in a short period of time.
While I applaud the increased activity, I deplore the increased number
in
SPAM.
Please be considerate. >>
Or at least write a new subject heading (cause some of them change
drastically, but still remain under the same subject) and write OT in
the
subject line.
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From: Edna Kemper <Netdance@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: all over me
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:15:33 -0700
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> I haven't seen the film yet, but i read some reviews and it sounds
> very interesting. Tell me, why do you like it better than HC? Is it
> because you can identify so much with one of the characters or do you
> also like it better as a film? What i'm trying to say is that i love
> a lot of films solely for the way they look, you know like the power
> of the images and imagery. HC is one of those films. I was wondering
> how ALL OVER ME rates in that category.
i still love HC as a film. i think in sheer beauty and power of the
whole thing could never be surpassed by anything. but the emotional
connection i had to it has worn off a bit. i've changed alot, and All
Over Me fits me more now. basically, Claude is me in every sense. and
the "pissing in the river" scene just proves that. oh well. you'll
understand once you get the movie. HC is still the top of my perfect
list, but for what really expresses who i am, all over me.
-jen
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: all over me
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 11:31:21 GMT
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On Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:15:33 -0700, Edna Kemper
<Netdance@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>i still love HC as a film. i think in sheer beauty and power of the
>whole thing could never be surpassed by anything. but the emotional
>connection i had to it has worn off a bit. i've changed alot, and All
Same here. I still love HC like no other film, but i don't seem to be
moved by it all that much anymore. Oh well, that's life i guess.
>Over Me fits me more now. basically, Claude is me in every sense. and
>the "pissing in the river" scene just proves that. oh well. you'll
Really? Like i said i haven't seen the film yet, but this reminds me
of one of my favorite lines from my favorite tori amos song, SPACE
DOG. It goes like:
Deck the halls i'm young again i'm you again
racing turtles the grapefruit is winning
i keep getting the story twisted so where's neil when you need him
deck the halls it's you again it's you again
somewhere someone must know the ending
is she still pissing in the river now
heard she'd gone moved into a trailer park
Nice eh?
>understand once you get the movie. HC is still the top of my perfect
>list, but for what really expresses who i am, all over me.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - http://www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Answering a million times
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 98 16:01:04 -0400
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PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>Or at least write a new subject heading (cause some of them change
>drastically, but still remain under the same subject) and write OT in
the
>subject line.
That's a good idea when you are still generally addressing the list but
when replying to an individual, please don't just hit reply button.
Even if labelled, the number of letters can get aggravating.
These are merely suggestions to avoid more people unsubscribing because
of the sheer number of posts.
(:^)]
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001 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Answering and Mental Question??
(not OT)
002 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Mental Question?? (not OT)
003 - Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@ - Re: Answering and Mental
Question?? (not OT)
004 - Jane Fribit <recurring@ya - I saw Jude two days ago.. this is
just my thoughts on it...
005 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: I saw Jude two days ago..
this is just my thoughts on it..
006 - "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@na - Re[2]: Labels...and such
007 - Shania610@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
Subject: Answering and Mental Question?? (not OT)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:19:53 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-19 16:03:55 EDT, you write:
<< These are merely suggestions to avoid more people unsubscribing
because
of the sheer number of posts. >>
Yes it it is a good idea as, not me, but some people can only recieve
or send
a certian number of emails per day, depending on their ISP. So in
consideration for these people, make sure you email the person whom you
are
referring or replying to. If you have something to say to the entire
list,
but it is not HC related, put OT in the topic. I know I had to delete
a lot
of the emails just because they were not relevant, and I should have
known
that before reading them.
As for HC, I am curious if anyone knows if, like I said in my earlier
post, if
an interviewer would ask Anne Perry, if she and Pauline were in love
and also
if they had ever had a physical relationship because of their love.,
instead
of asking her if she and Pauline were lesbain's, as I said i am sure at
the
time Juliet and Paul did not know what that was, only knew that they
loved
each other. And then when the meadi in 1954, made the term "lesbian" or
"lesbianism" seem like a bad or evil thing, they would probably have
distanced
themselves from it even more. remember in 1954, being a homosexual was
still
considered a mental disorder and you could have been sent to a
psychiatric
intution for treatment.
That brings me to another Q. If being a homosexual was considered a
mental
disorder, at that time, and the people in the town were convinced tha
they
were lesbians, or at least had lesbian relations, then why didn't their
insanity plea work ??? That is something I have always wondered.
Anyone have
any ideas??
The only thing I can think of is that the prosecutors did not feel that
being
a lesbian, even though a menatl disorder, made them insane to the point
of
murder ?? In other words thier being gay had nothing to do with the
crime ??
Which I believe anyway, even if they were gay, and felt their
realationships
was being threatned, does not matter. A person can be strait, and if
they
feel their relationship is being threatned, they may resort to murder,
so
sexuality really has no basis.
I think I just answered my own Q!! But still let me know what you all
think.
Jennifer EMT-B
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Mental Question?? (not OT)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 23:13:10 +0200
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IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> That brings me to another Q. If being a homosexual was considered a
mental
> disorder, at that time, and the people in the town were convinced tha
they
> were lesbians, or at least had lesbian relations, then why didn't
their
> insanity plea work ??? That is something I have always wondered.
Anyone have
> any ideas??
> The only thing I can think of is that the prosecutors did not feel
that being
> a lesbian, even though a menatl disorder, made them insane to the
point of
> murder ?? In other words thier being gay had nothing to do with the
crime ??
> Which I believe anyway, even if they were gay, and felt their
realationships
> was being threatned, does not matter. A person can be strait, and if
they
> feel their relationship is being threatned, they may resort to
murder, so
> sexuality really has no basis.
Yes I guess you've answered your own question...here's another possible
answer:
I think there is a strange contradiction in the case. The public opinion
differed from the prosecutors ones. You probably know what people
thought of lesbianism, so I'm not gonna repeat that here. The media
jumped on it abd talked about 'murderous lesbians' (their words, not my
labels!), which everyone believed they were... Of course this public
opinion helped the prosecutors to prove that they were guilty.
But at the same time the prosecutors had some experts who said that
homosexuals were not criminally insane. So you see that the court found
the two 'perfectly healthy girls' guilty of murder, while the people
were shocked because of the fact that two 'insane lesbian lovers
murdered to stay together'. Maybe the plea would have worked if the
people were to decide...
lyric
--
This is just between me, and you, and you ~ Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Answering and Mental Question?? (not OT)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:25:50 +0800 (WST)
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Hello Creatures,
This question has come up before, and it is one that has confused many
people. It is quite clear that Alison Laurie does not understand the
legal situation (in the Glamuzina & Laurie book, and in her subsequent
writing on the topic), for instance.
On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
>
> That brings me to another Q. If being a homosexual was considered a
mental
> disorder, at that time, and the people in the town were convinced tha
they
> were lesbians, or at least had lesbian relations, then why didn't
their
> insanity plea work ??? That is something I have always wondered.
Anyone have
> any ideas??
Insanity as a defence in British common law (from which NZ common law
derives) has a very specific definition. It is called the McNaughton
Rules, based on a case in England in 1843. They are as follows:
(a) every [person] is presumed sane until the contrary is proved;
(b) it must be clearly proved that at the time of committing the act,
the
accused was labouring under such a defect of reason as not to know the
nature of the act, or that he [or she] was doing wrong.
Juliet Hulme shot herself neatly in the foot by saying after the murder
that only a moron would not know it was wrong to murder someone. While
Medlicott et al. might well have demonstrated to everyone's satisfaction
that the girls were barking mad clinically, the fact that they knew what
they were doing and that it was wrong meant an insanity plea was not
acceptable.
Hope this helps
cheers
*Rana borovnia*
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From: Jane Fribit <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: I saw Jude two days ago.. this is just my thoughts on it...
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 20:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
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Dear creatures,
Just wanted to pass on that I saw Jude, mostly because of your
messages about the film, and think that it is completely wonderful!
I'm my opinion not as great or as well filmed as HC, but Kate is far
better in this. She is both likeable and completely believeable. Is
there a better actress around today??? (apart from Emma Thompson that
is).
Anyway, my tv wasn't working (the colour that is) so I had to watch it
all in b/w. I would like to see it in colour but I think in black and
white it was more "arty"... more like a foreign film. So brilliant!
Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare that I
have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
Jude.
Regards,
Jane
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: I saw Jude two days ago.. this is just my thoughts on it...
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:16:30 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-20 00:00:03 EDT, you write:
<< Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare that I
have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
Jude.
Regards,
Jane >>
YES YES YES!! i think nothing can come close to kate's acting in jude!!
she
did such a good job!! yay!
~joanna~
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From: "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@nass.usda.gov>
Subject: Re[2]: Labels...and such
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 14:53:43 -0500
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Angie wrote:
BTW anyone live in the South. I'm in Louisiana (New Orleans), and I
haven't
noticed anyone anywhere close to here?
Yeah, I live in the South, but not as far South as you. I
live in
Little Rock, Arkansas. I used to live in Beaumont Texas. I've
been to New Orleans once and loved it, but that was only one
night in the French Quarter. Funny thing is I had a great
time
but I'm pretty much the prude in my behavior. Now my
philosophies
on life are a different story...
About Anne and Hillary not seeing each other anymore: The end
of
the film tears me up because of that stipend. They went
through
all that trouble to be together and if it were fiction I'd
want
their efforts to pay off. The problem is that this isn't
fiction,
so the rational part of me agrees with the sentence.
More later,
Brandi^^
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From: Shania610@aol.com
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:35:03 EDT
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I was away from my computer for a few days.....I am bi as well. 21 and
from
nebraska.
More when I get a chance to catch up =)
karen
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001 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: I saw Jude.....I guess this
is OT
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: I saw Jude.....I guess this
is OT
003 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - off: puccini dvd's
004 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: I saw Jude two days ago..
this is just my thoughts on it..
005 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Bound & gagged
006 - "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@na - My first time
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: I saw Jude.....I guess this is OT
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:57:12 +0200
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Jane Fribit wrote:
> Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare that I
> have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
> Jude.
Gosh, I keep running to the video-store lately!!! Anyone has more
recommandations? Then I'll do a film-marathon some day this week...*s*
lyric
--
Would the two of you just do it and get it over with? I'm starving!
- Vicky, Reality Bites
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: I saw Jude.....I guess this is OT
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 14:23:26 -0700 (PDT)
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hmmm... What ones have you rented hehehe personally hehhee Chasing Amy
again is always a good thing hehehe
---lyric wrote:
>
> Jane Fribit wrote:
>
> > Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare that I
> > have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
> > Jude.
>
> Gosh, I keep running to the video-store lately!!! Anyone has more
> recommandations? Then I'll do a film-marathon some day this week...*s*
>
> lyric
>
> --
> Would the two of you just do it and get it over with? I'm starving!
> - Vicky, Reality Bites
>
>
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: off: puccini dvd's
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:58:45 GMT
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I just heard that on september 15 some puccini opera's will be
released on dvd. The first titles will be LA BOHEME and TOSCA, with
defeatable english subtitles and italian dolby surround. With dolby
surround i'm sure they mean dolby digital 3.0 or 3.1.
I'm happy :)
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: I saw Jude two days ago.. this is just my thoughts on it...
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 07:58:43 GMT
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On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 20:52:35 -0700 (PDT), Jane Fribit
<recurring@yahoo.com> wrote:
>I'm my opinion not as great or as well filmed as HC, but Kate is far
>better in this. She is both likeable and completely believeable. Is
It's kate's best work, absolutely. It's a shame so few people know
about this gem. F**k the oscars, but it should have at least won an
award for best foreign film. Was it even nominated?
My only complaints are the pig killing scene and the fact that it
doesn't follow the book all the way through.
My favorite scenes are the scene with jude and sue on the bridge and
the university parade.
And the music. God it's so beautiful.
>Anyway, my tv wasn't working (the colour that is) so I had to watch it
>all in b/w. I would like to see it in colour but I think in black and
You'll be glad to know that the beautiful opening scenes with the
younger jude are actually filmed in b&w.
To the people that haven't seen it yet, make sure you get the
widescreen version (available on laserdisc and vhs). I saw the
butchered p&s version a few months ago and it's horrible.
>Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare that I
>have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
>Jude.
Hmm, this makes a nice new spam thread ;)
For best ever female performance it's a tie between
juliette lewis in CAPE FEAR
kate winslet in JUDE
mel lynskey in HC.
For best male performance i can only think of one and that's the
mighty robert de niro in TAXI DRIVER. Nothing comes close.
All imho ufcoz.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 04:51:13 -0700 (PDT)
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Well everyones bi here hehehehe! Well it seems like it! :o)
Love
Kate
X
---Shania610@aol.com wrote:
>
> I was away from my computer for a few days.....I am bi as well. 21
and from
> nebraska.
>
> More when I get a chance to catch up =)
>
> karen
>
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From: "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@nass.usda.gov>
Subject: My first time
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 98 14:11:43 -0500
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And no, that's not what you think.
The first time I saw Heavenly Creatures, I was basically
badgered
into it. My friend, who is gay, had seen it just because it
involved homosexuality in some form. I watched it so he would
leave me alone and I've been mesmerized by it ever since.
I'm glad to see the number of 'where do you live' posts have
gone
down. That was a bit annoying as it had nothing to do with HC.
Sidenote: Last week I dreamt that I met Kate Winslet at some
party and she gave me her address and phone number so that I
could call her. She had long hair and her hair was up with
those
ringlet things were around her face.
-Brandi M. Smith^^
P.S. For the record: Straight, with occasional lesbian
fantasies.
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001 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: My first time
002 - sian <titch158@yahoo.com> - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n843
003 - ilaclos@yahoo.com - Yahoo! Mail Auto-Reply
004 - Jane Fribit <recurring@ya - OT: My favourite actors/actresses
005 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - OT- KK & Lotr
006 - crystal <beckwith@Oswego. - Re: OT- KK & Lotr
007 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - All's well that ends well
008 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: OT- KK & Lotr
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: My first time
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:06:17 +0200
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BRANDI SMITH wrote:
> And no, that's not what you think.
Geeeezz...for a moment I thought you were planning to broadcast it on
the internet, since Mr Oscar Wells isn't as hideous as he appeared to
be...*lafs*
But then again, what idiot believed that story in the first place? Oscar
Wells, 5th of August...yeah right. War of Cyberspace!!!!! (-:
> Sidenote: Last week I dreamt that I met Kate Winslet at some
> party and she gave me her address and phone number so that I
> could call her. She had long hair and her hair was up with
those
> ringlet things were around her face.
And who says dreams can't come true? (-: Which parties are you planning
to go to in the near future? Get me some tickets as well!!! *jk*
lyric
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n843
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 14:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
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---heavenly-c-errors@lists.best.com wrote:
>
>
> -------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n843 --------------
>
> 001 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Answering and Mental
Question?? (not OT)
> 002 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Mental Question?? (not OT)
> 003 - Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@ - Re: Answering and Mental
Question?? (not OT)
> 004 - Jane Fribit <recurring@ya - I saw Jude two days ago.. this
is just my thoughts on it...
> 005 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: I saw Jude two days ago..
this is just my thoughts on it..
> 006 - "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@na - Re[2]: Labels...and such
> 007 - Shania610@aol.com - Re: Bound & gagged
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n843.1 ---------------
>
> From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
> Subject: Answering and Mental Question?? (not OT)
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:19:53 EDT
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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>
> In a message dated 98-07-19 16:03:55 EDT, you write:
>
> << These are merely suggestions to avoid more people unsubscribing
because
> of the sheer number of posts. >>
>
>
> Yes it it is a good idea as, not me, but some people can only
recieve or send
> a certian number of emails per day, depending on their ISP. So in
> consideration for these people, make sure you email the person whom
you are
> referring or replying to. If you have something to say to the
entire list,
> but it is not HC related, put OT in the topic. I know I had to
delete a lot
> of the emails just because they were not relevant, and I should have
known
> that before reading them.
>
> As for HC, I am curious if anyone knows if, like I said in my
earlier post, if
> an interviewer would ask Anne Perry, if she and Pauline were in love
and also
> if they had ever had a physical relationship because of their love.,
instead
> of asking her if she and Pauline were lesbain's, as I said i am sure
at the
> time Juliet and Paul did not know what that was, only knew that they
loved
> each other. And then when the meadi in 1954, made the term
"lesbian" or
> "lesbianism" seem like a bad or evil thing, they would probably have
distanced
> themselves from it even more. remember in 1954, being a homosexual
was still
> considered a mental disorder and you could have been sent to a
psychiatric
> intution for treatment.
>
> That brings me to another Q. If being a homosexual was considered a
mental
> disorder, at that time, and the people in the town were convinced
tha they
> were lesbians, or at least had lesbian relations, then why didn't
their
> insanity plea work ??? That is something I have always wondered.
Anyone have
> any ideas??
>
> The only thing I can think of is that the prosecutors did not feel
that being
> a lesbian, even though a menatl disorder, made them insane to the
point of
> murder ?? In other words thier being gay had nothing to do with the
crime ??
> Which I believe anyway, even if they were gay, and felt their
realationships
> was being threatned, does not matter. A person can be strait, and
if they
> feel their relationship is being threatned, they may resort to
murder, so
> sexuality really has no basis.
>
> I think I just answered my own Q!! But still let me know what you
all think.
>
> Jennifer EMT-B
>
>
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>
> From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
> Subject: Re: Mental Question?? (not OT)
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 23:13:10 +0200
> MIME-Version: 1.0
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> References: <199807192021.NAA03275@lists1.best.com>
>
> IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
>
> > That brings me to another Q. If being a homosexual was considered
a mental
> > disorder, at that time, and the people in the town were convinced
tha they
> > were lesbians, or at least had lesbian relations, then why didn't
their
> > insanity plea work ??? That is something I have always wondered.
Anyone have
> > any ideas??
>
> > The only thing I can think of is that the prosecutors did not feel
that being
> > a lesbian, even though a menatl disorder, made them insane to the
point of
> > murder ?? In other words thier being gay had nothing to do with
the crime ??
> > Which I believe anyway, even if they were gay, and felt their
realationships
> > was being threatned, does not matter. A person can be strait, and
if they
> > feel their relationship is being threatned, they may resort to
murder, so
> > sexuality really has no basis.
>
> Yes I guess you've answered your own question...here's another
possible
> answer:
> I think there is a strange contradiction in the case. The public
opinion
> differed from the prosecutors ones. You probably know what people
> thought of lesbianism, so I'm not gonna repeat that here. The media
> jumped on it abd talked about 'murderous lesbians' (their words, not
my
> labels!), which everyone believed they were... Of course this public
> opinion helped the prosecutors to prove that they were guilty.
> But at the same time the prosecutors had some experts who said that
> homosexuals were not criminally insane. So you see that the court
found
> the two 'perfectly healthy girls' guilty of murder, while the people
> were shocked because of the fact that two 'insane lesbian lovers
> murdered to stay together'. Maybe the plea would have worked if the
> people were to decide...
>
> lyric
>
> --
> This is just between me, and you, and you ~ Janet, Velvet Rope
>
>
>
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>
> From: Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
> Subject: Re: Answering and Mental Question?? (not OT)
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 07:25:50 +0800 (WST)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> In-Reply-To: <199807192021.NAA03275@lists1.best.com>
>
>
> Hello Creatures,
>
> This question has come up before, and it is one that has confused many
> people. It is quite clear that Alison Laurie does not understand the
> legal situation (in the Glamuzina & Laurie book, and in her subsequent
> writing on the topic), for instance.
>
> On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > That brings me to another Q. If being a homosexual was considered
a mental
> > disorder, at that time, and the people in the town were convinced
tha they
> > were lesbians, or at least had lesbian relations, then why didn't
their
> > insanity plea work ??? That is something I have always wondered.
Anyone have
> > any ideas??
>
> Insanity as a defence in British common law (from which NZ common law
> derives) has a very specific definition. It is called the McNaughton
> Rules, based on a case in England in 1843. They are as follows:
>
> (a) every [person] is presumed sane until the contrary is proved;
> (b) it must be clearly proved that at the time of committing the
act, the
> accused was labouring under such a defect of reason as not to know the
> nature of the act, or that he [or she] was doing wrong.
>
> Juliet Hulme shot herself neatly in the foot by saying after the
murder
> that only a moron would not know it was wrong to murder someone.
While
> Medlicott et al. might well have demonstrated to everyone's
satisfaction
> that the girls were barking mad clinically, the fact that they knew
what
> they were doing and that it was wrong meant an insanity plea was not
> acceptable.
>
> Hope this helps
>
> cheers
>
> *Rana borovnia*
>
>
>
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>
> From: Jane Fribit <recurring@yahoo.com>
> Subject: I saw Jude two days ago.. this is just my thoughts on it...
> Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 20:52:35 -0700 (PDT)
> MIME-Version: 1.0
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>
> Dear creatures,
>
> Just wanted to pass on that I saw Jude, mostly because of your
> messages about the film, and think that it is completely wonderful!
>
> I'm my opinion not as great or as well filmed as HC, but Kate is far
> better in this. She is both likeable and completely believeable. Is
> there a better actress around today??? (apart from Emma Thompson that
> is).
>
> Anyway, my tv wasn't working (the colour that is) so I had to watch it
> all in b/w. I would like to see it in colour but I think in black and
> white it was more "arty"... more like a foreign film. So brilliant!
>
> Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare that I
> have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
> Jude.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jane
> _________________________________________________________
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> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
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>
> From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
> Subject: Re: I saw Jude two days ago.. this is just my thoughts on
it...
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 01:16:30 EDT
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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>
> In a message dated 98-07-20 00:00:03 EDT, you write:
>
> << Anyway, I have to see it again soon. Anyway, I hearby declare
that I
> have never in my life seen anyone act as well as Kate Winslet did in
> Jude.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jane >>
>
> YES YES YES!! i think nothing can come close to kate's acting in
jude!! she
> did such a good job!! yay!
> ~joanna~
>
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n843.6 ---------------
>
> From: "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@nass.usda.gov>
> Subject: Re[2]: Labels...and such
> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 98 14:53:43 -0500
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
>
> Angie wrote:
>
> BTW anyone live in the South. I'm in Louisiana (New Orleans), and I
haven't
> noticed anyone anywhere close to here?
>
> Yeah, I live in the South, but not as far South as you. I
live in
> Little Rock, Arkansas. I used to live in Beaumont Texas.
I've
> been to New Orleans once and loved it, but that was only
one
> night in the French Quarter. Funny thing is I had a great
time
> but I'm pretty much the prude in my behavior. Now my
philosophies
> on life are a different story...
>
> About Anne and Hillary not seeing each other anymore: The
end of
> the film tears me up because of that stipend. They went
through
> all that trouble to be together and if it were fiction I'd
want
> their efforts to pay off. The problem is that this isn't
fiction,
> so the rational part of me agrees with the sentence.
>
> More later,
> Brandi^^
>
>
>
>
> --------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n843.7 ---------------
>
> From: Shania610@aol.com
> Subject: Re: Bound & gagged
> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 16:35:03 EDT
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>
> I was away from my computer for a few days.....I am bi as well. 21
and from
> nebraska.
>
> More when I get a chance to catch up =)
>
> karen
>
>
> --------------- END heavenly-c.v001.n843 ---------------
>
>
==
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: Jane Fribit <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: OT: My favourite actors/actresses
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 23:31:51 -0700 (PDT)
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For actresses... definitely KATE in JUDE..
also running closely behind are MELANIE in HC, EMMA THOMPSON in Much
Ado About Nothing, and JANEANE GAROFALO in Bye Bye Love..
For male actors..
KEVIN SPACEY in The Usual Suspects
CARY GRANT in An Affair To Remember
HARRISON FORD in The Mosquito Coast
:o))))
Regards,
Jane
>
> For best ever female performance it's a tie between
>
> juliette lewis in CAPE FEAR
> kate winslet in JUDE
> mel lynskey in HC.
>
> For best male performance i can only think of one and that's the
> mighty robert de niro in TAXI DRIVER. Nothing comes close.
>
> All imho ufcoz.
>
> --
> Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
> All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
> It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
>
>
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From: Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
Subject: OT- KK & Lotr
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 15:21:51 +0100
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Hiya all,
Just been reading the computer
supplement of the Times
("Interface") and I read this
paragraph in a article about
film scripts.
"Thousands of screenplays are
written every year which are
never made into movies and
this summer has seen a spate
of feature films canceled by
studios scared of fickle
audiences. They include the
remake of King Kong and the
much anticipated adaptation of
J.R.R Tolkein's Lord of the
Rings."
I hope this just means
postponed rather than actually
canceled. This is rather
worrying considering the
article starts
"Film fans tired of the
Hollywood obsession with
rehashing old movies such as
Godzilla and Dr Doolittle...".
(The rest of the article goes
on to talk about a web site (
WWW.roughcut.com) inviting
people to finish off a script
with the best script having
the possibility of being
produced)
And talking of scripts, so
many people have said how sad
the ending of HC was. Just for
fun, If the story was fiction,
how would you have liked it to
end ( by ending, I mean after
Honora's death). I am having
bit of a think about
this...hmmmmm.....
Have fun,
Stephen.
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From: crystal <beckwith@Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: OT- KK & Lotr
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 14:31:57 -0400 (EDT)
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Well this may sound a little sick but I would have the girls get away
with
it, and go to S.Africa together. Of course if I could change the
"script"
so that the murder didn't happen then of course I would and Paul and
Juliet could have just run away together or even better Honora and the
Hulme's would have let Pauline go with Juliet. I guess I'm just a sucker
for a happy ending...but its not very often that people find their
soulmates, and thats what I think the girls were, so I think the girls
deserved to be together.
Crystal
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On Wed, 22 Jul 1998, Stephen Bull wrote:
> Hiya all,
>
> Just been reading the computer
> supplement of the Times
> ("Interface") and I read this
> paragraph in a article about
> film scripts.
>
> "Thousands of screenplays are
> written every year which are
> never made into movies and
> this summer has seen a spate
> of feature films canceled by
> studios scared of fickle
> audiences. They include the
> remake of King Kong and the
> much anticipated adaptation of
> J.R.R Tolkein's Lord of the
> Rings."
>
> I hope this just means
> postponed rather than actually
> canceled. This is rather
> worrying considering the
> article starts
> "Film fans tired of the
> Hollywood obsession with
> rehashing old movies such as
> Godzilla and Dr Doolittle...".
>
> (The rest of the article goes
> on to talk about a web site (
> WWW.roughcut.com) inviting
> people to finish off a script
> with the best script having
> the possibility of being
> produced)
>
> And talking of scripts, so
> many people have said how sad
> the ending of HC was. Just for
> fun, If the story was fiction,
> how would you have liked it to
> end ( by ending, I mean after
> Honora's death). I am having
> bit of a think about
> this...hmmmmm.....
>
>
> Have fun,
>
> Stephen.
>
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From: Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
Subject: All's well that ends well
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 21:31:25 +0100
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Hiya,
An alternative on how to end HC....
We have Juliette and Pauline running down the deck of the ship in slo-mo
and sepia...shouting "Mummy...Daddy", just as they reach Mr & Doctor
Hulme at the end of the ship, Doctor Hulme bends down, Juliette hits
him, goes flying over him and overboard ! The final shot is of Pauline
looked annoyed..." Awwww !....Bugger It !". Camera pulls back as the
ship sets off into the sunset....Credits .
After the credits...Mr Reiper sitting alone in his favorite chair, Pint
in his hand, a christmas hat on and with Mario Lanza's greatest
christmas hits playing in the background . Takes a sip and says."
Wonderful....no bloody socks this year !"
Having fun.
Stephen.
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:19:18 +0200
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crystal wrote:
>
> Well this may sound a little sick but I would have the girls get away
with
> it, and go to S.Africa together. Of course if I could change the
"script"
> so that the murder didn't happen then of course I would and Paul and
> Juliet could have just run away together or even better Honora and the
> Hulme's would have let Pauline go with Juliet. I guess I'm just a
sucker
> for a happy ending...but its not very often that people find their
> soulmates, and thats what I think the girls were, so I think the girls
> deserved to be together.
Yes, long live the happy endings...but I think the story intrigues me
just because it ends this way...do you think we'd still be talking about
it if they got away with it and lived happily ever after?? I don't think
I would...
I wouldn't want to change a thing to the script if it would be
fiction...
As for the real events, I wish I could change those! But that's not what
was asked...
lyric
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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001 - Edna Kemper <Netdance@wor - Re: OT: my favorite actors and
actresses
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: OT: my favorite actors and
actresses
003 - Jane Fribit <recurring@ya - Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and
The Loveliest Night...
004 - Aileen Dayao <n9343700@ga - Re: OT: my favorite actors and
actresses
005 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles
and The Loveliest Night...
006 - mailcall <mailcall@bluema - Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles
and The Loveliest Night...
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From: Edna Kemper <Netdance@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: OT: my favorite actors and actresses
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 18:43:13 -0700
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> For actresses... definitely KATE in JUDE..
I think i'm the only one on earth that thought her performance in Jude
was GOOD...but not great. maybe it's because i don't like her very
much...but she just didn't capture me. The only reason i saw the movie
was for the fabulous Rachel Griffiths...who wasn't that good either...
not that it wasn't a good movie. it just didn't grab me.
> also running closely behind are MELANIE in HC
must MUST agree with this one.
> For male actors..
>
> KEVIN SPACEY in The Usual Suspects
I love love LOVE Usual Suspects...but for me, it was Kevin Spacey in
SEVEN. I rank that among the best performances i have ever seen. that's
what made me a Spacey freak...
now my turn:
Emily Watson in Breaking the Waves. (this above ANYTHING is the best
acting performance by ANYONE i have ever seen...)
Alison Elliot in The Wings Of the Dove
Alison Folland in All Over Me
Miranda Richardson in Tom and Viv
Sigourney Weaver in Death and the Maiden
Fairuza Balk in Imaginary Crimes
Helen Mirren in Losing Chase...actually Helen Mirren in anything
Sarah Polley in The Sweet HereAfter
Tilda Swinton in Orlando
and the boys...
i think someone already said Robert DeNiro in Taxi Driver, which i must
second
Kevin Spacey in Seven
John Malkovich in Of Mice and Men
Ben Kingsley in Death and the Maiden
Nicholas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas
um..whoever played Chad in In the Company of Men..help me out here...
Russel Crowe in LA Confidential
um...need some help HERE too..who was the guy in Basquiat...
well that's my list
-jen
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: OT: my favorite actors and actresses
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 17:04:53 -0700 (PDT)
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Well
Kate Winslet in everything hehehe
Melanie Lynskey in Heavenly Creatures
Joey Lauren Adams in Chasing Amy (she is hott everyone hehehe)
hmmm
and thats about it oh and I like Julianna Margulies from ER and thats
it :o)
---Edna Kemper wrote:
>
> > For actresses... definitely KATE in JUDE..
>
> I think i'm the only one on earth that thought her performance in Jude
> was GOOD...but not great. maybe it's because i don't like her very
> much...but she just didn't capture me. The only reason i saw the movie
> was for the fabulous Rachel Griffiths...who wasn't that good either...
> not that it wasn't a good movie. it just didn't grab me.
>
> > also running closely behind are MELANIE in HC
>
> must MUST agree with this one.
>
> > For male actors..
> >
> > KEVIN SPACEY in The Usual Suspects
>
> I love love LOVE Usual Suspects...but for me, it was Kevin Spacey in
> SEVEN. I rank that among the best performances i have ever seen.
that's
> what made me a Spacey freak...
>
> now my turn:
>
> Emily Watson in Breaking the Waves. (this above ANYTHING is the best
> acting performance by ANYONE i have ever seen...)
> Alison Elliot in The Wings Of the Dove
> Alison Folland in All Over Me
> Miranda Richardson in Tom and Viv
> Sigourney Weaver in Death and the Maiden
> Fairuza Balk in Imaginary Crimes
> Helen Mirren in Losing Chase...actually Helen Mirren in anything
> Sarah Polley in The Sweet HereAfter
> Tilda Swinton in Orlando
>
> and the boys...
>
> i think someone already said Robert DeNiro in Taxi Driver, which i
must
> second
>
> Kevin Spacey in Seven
> John Malkovich in Of Mice and Men
> Ben Kingsley in Death and the Maiden
> Nicholas Cage in Leaving Las Vegas
> um..whoever played Chad in In the Company of Men..help me out here...
> Russel Crowe in LA Confidential
> um...need some help HERE too..who was the guy in Basquiat...
>
> well that's my list
>
> -jen
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
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From: Jane Fribit <recurring@yahoo.com>
Subject: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1998 23:30:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Hi creatures,
Firstly: Tosca
I picked up a recording (it wasn't that extravigant but cheap at
Australian $2.50) from this second hand book shop near my school. I
just want to say that I've listened to the first Act and it's utterly
brilliant (also helped to inspire me to do my maths homework :))
Anyway, I was just curious about whether Juliet's Aria (Sono Andati)
in actually in Tosca or another of Puccini's operas. Also if "E
lucenvan le stelle" is in this. And, if so, where are they found? (ie
which act)
Secondly: Biggles
Whilst also looking around this second hand book store, I found some
Biggles books - unfortunately not Biggles On 266. Anyway, for $1.50 I
bought "Biggles Air Detective". This book was published in 1952.. so
there is a chance that it is an original.. hmmm.
Thirdly: The Loveliest Night Of The Year
I bought a copy of the manuscript to "TLNOFY" and would be happy to
scan it in and email it as an attachment to people. I am looking for
other HC featured Mario songs. The manuscript of that is. If anyone
has any which they can scan and send to me please email me with the
details at: recurring@yahoo.com
Regards,
Jane
It's all frightfully romantic!
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From: Aileen Dayao <n9343700@garbo.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Subject: Re: OT: my favorite actors and actresses
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 23:19:11 +1000 (EST)
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> I think i'm the only one on earth that thought her performance in Jude
> was GOOD...but not great. maybe it's because i don't like her very
> much...but she just didn't capture me. The only reason i saw the movie
> was for the fabulous Rachel Griffiths...who wasn't that good either...
> not that it wasn't a good movie. it just didn't grab me.
I thought JUDE was good too.... I don't really know about great, I just
know which books I like, which ones I love, which ones were okay, and
which ones were *ugh***** =)) as with everything I guess it's all
subjective =))
> > For male actors..
> > KEVIN SPACEY in The Usual Suspects
> I love love LOVE Usual Suspects...but for me, it was Kevin Spacey in
> SEVEN. I rank that among the best performances i have ever seen.
that's
> what made me a Spacey freak...
If someone has the time to waste, could they let meeh know what The
Usual
Suspects is about? I tried watching it when it was on tv and couldn't
get
into it....
When naming fave movies a few weeks back, I forgot to mention L.A.
CONFIDENTIAL.... loved it...
> Alison Elliot in The Wings Of the Dove
I haven't had a chance to watch this yet....
> Helen Mirren in Losing Chase...actually Helen Mirren in anything
Is Helen Mirren the one who did the Prime Suspect movies? I saw an old
Titanic movie with her as a scullery maid or something =)))
> Sarah Polley in The Sweet HereAfter
Loved this movie.... I've watched it a few times....
I read a review which among other things mentioned (I don't think I've
posted this here before, sorry if I have =)) :
> Hi =)) I've been reading the reviews for TSH linked from IMDB and
found
> the below (snippet from whole review) :
>
> Upon seeing the horrifying image of the bus breaking through lake
ice,
> my lawyer mind thought, "Gee, if there had been an emergency exit
on
> the roof of that bus, all those kids might have gotten out alive."
The
> film's lawyer never gets that far. More than once, he admits that
he
> has no idea what sort of negligence will be the basis for his
suit. In
> one of the most heavily criticized traditions of modern day
advocacy,
> he says, "Someone died, so someone else has to pay."
> Kevin Spacey in Seven
> John Malkovich in Of Mice and Men
Haven't watched either of these movies either, we had to read Of Mice
And
Men in high school, and I found it to be really powerful etc...
> Russel Crowe in LA Confidential
__o take care- justmeeh.. Aileen.
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 11:53:01 -0300
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> Anyway, I was just curious about whether Juliet's Aria (Sono Andati)
> in actually in Tosca or another of Puccini's operas. Also if "E
> lucenvan le stelle" is in this. And, if so, where are they found? (ie
> which act)
Sono Andati is in La Boheme's fourth and last act. It's not really an
aria, it's a duet between the heroes Mimi and Rodolfo, just before the
opera's tragic end, when she dies of tuberculosis (spoiler? ;)). I'm not
sure of what part of Tosca is "E lucevan le stelle", but I'm almost sure
it's in the end. Maybe Jose Antonio knows more about it; hey Jose!
Next month I'll be watching La Boheme in a theatre here. I already told
my friends not to be surprised if I sing along and cry... ;P
> I bought a copy of the manuscript to "TLNOFY" and would be happy to
> scan it in and email it as an attachment to people.
By the manuscript you mean the score? Oh yes, I would love to have a
copy of it!
:*
Juliana.
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From: mailcall <mailcall@bluemarble.net>
Subject: Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1998 18:31:41 -0500 (EST)
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at this point i feel it incumbent upon me to mention a couple of books
that
will probably prove invaluable to you incipient opera buffs:
the victor book of the opera, published by simon and schuster.
milton cross presents stories of the great operas.
anything and everything you could ever want to know is there, in case
you
want to become very fond of opera. they give detailed synopses of the
stories (don't bother about spoilers, everybody knows the stories
anyway)
and show pictures of the greatest singers through the centuries. no, you
won't find mario lanza in there; he wasn't an opera singer.
i also recommend you go to "yahoo!" and look up this section:
Arts: Performing Arts: Opera
tons of links to neat sites that have everything.
you can look up great singers who would have been active at the time of
the
"heavenly" events :)
good luck!
--==** melanthe alexian **==--
...she just slipped away...
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001 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - off: leon/the professional
002 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - OT: HK
003 - "Marie Braden" <braden@ms - Random musings
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: off: leon/the professional
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 11:32:21 GMT
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I remember there was somebody on this list a while ago who had a
wonderful homepage dedicated to one of my favorite films: LEON/THE
PROFESSIONAL. Anyway i lost the url, so if anybody could email it to
me i'd really appreciate it.
Cheers,
jeroen.
--
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All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
Subject: OT: HK
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 07:47:58 +0100
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Hiya,
Does anyone know what is happening with Hideous Kinky? Wasn't it
supposed to be rel;eased last month?
Who was it on the list that was going to the premiere? Do you have any
info?
Stephen
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From: "Marie Braden" <braden@msw0.attnet.or.jp>
Subject: Random musings
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 18:08:54 +0900
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1. Currently reading BRUNSWICK GARDENS, which is Anne Perry's latest.
It's
rather interesting when you compare some of the statements in there to
the
P/H case. Plus, some of the comments about religion are interesting in
light of all that went before. One that I noticed particularly was a
comment about how families never know quite what to do when one of their
members is accused of murder.
2. In Tosca, there is a piece called "Mario, Mario." I smiled when I
saw
that, thinking of the scene where Juliet is crying out, "Mario, Mario,
Mario."
3. I also find it interesting when noting how much Puccini is on the
soundtrack to think about how most of the critiques I've read have
mentioned
that he was rather melodramatic, etc, basically, exactly the sort of
stuff
that would appeal to teenagers.
4. Does anyone have a transcript of the 20/20 episode where AP talks
about
her past?
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001 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Mel in Ever Aftere
002 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
003 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
004 - Aretese@aol.com - Re: Outing time!
005 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: Outing time!
006 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - New Kate Projects
007 - LaSkA4u@aol.com - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
008 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Another Kate thing...
009 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Mel in Ever After
010 - Ald14hc@aol.com - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
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Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on the
screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After with
drew
Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
It should be cool to see her now since she is much older. She was only
15,
during HC, so she is now almost 20, if not already. Maybe even 21.
Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
Jennifer EMT-B
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 08:41:58 -0700 (PDT)
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I am! I know it was very weird I thought I saw her in the previews
(before it was really over the internet) and then I saw Drew Barrymore
and I was like oh it must of just been drew looking like melanie. But
then I started seeing all this "melanie in a new movie" and I was like
woo-hoo. I checked the site, i totally flipped out. And said I have
to see this movie it has Melanie in it! I was screaming all day (me
and my best mate Kelli who is a huge fan of Melanie) Its going to be
awesome!!!
---IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
>
> Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on
the
> screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After
with drew
> Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
>
> It should be cool to see her now since she is much older. She was
only 15,
> during HC, so she is now almost 20, if not already. Maybe even 21.
>
> Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
>
> Jennifer EMT-B
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:53:03 +0200
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IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
Meeee!!!! (I like to see Drew as well actually!) But I guess it will
take a while longer before it opens in Holland.(If it opens at all,
lotsa films don't even make it on the screen here...) FE: Godzilla will
open in October if I'm correct....not that I want to see it, but still
it's unbelievably late!
It sux big time, now the discussion about Mel in Ever After will be
over, when I finally get to see it...
lyric
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: Aretese@aol.com
Subject: Re: Outing time!
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 12:15:45 EDT
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My apologies for an old response, I've been playing cowgirl for the
past few
weeks.
I'm always stunned by so many people on the list insisting the girls
were
hetero and just involved in usual adolescent games. Pauline and Juliet
having
sex on several occasions and generally playing the parts of
lovebirds...well,
I'm an out lesbian myself but the nature of the relationship seems
perfectly
clear.
BTW I received a letter yesterday from Alison Folland (from 'All Over
Me' and
'To Die For'!) and she mentioned HC as a favorite "esp. when they make
love to
each other via a black & white image of Orsen Welles."
In the springtime I showed the movie to my school's queer youth group,
making
me the recruitor of eight more HC enthusiasts!
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Subject: Re: Outing time!
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 98 12:59:25 -0400
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Aretese@aol.com wrote:
>BTW I received a letter yesterday from Alison Folland (from 'All Over
Me' and
>'To Die For'!) and she mentioned HC as a favorite "esp. when they make
>love to
>each other via a black & white image of Orsen Welles."
Bless her heart. Thank her for the compliment.
E.Jean Guerin
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
Subject: New Kate Projects
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 13:58:48 EDT
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Not sure how valid all of this is, but it was in "Curve" magazine for
this
past month. I will confirm the date later. It said something about
Kate
Winslet being suggested or her actually being interested in taking the
part of
a famous novelist from a long time ago. The twist, the novelist was
(as in
when she was alive) a lesbian. Not sure about the whole thing, that
novelist
name was Daphne, not sure of the last name as she was French I think.
Anyway,
if you want to read for yourself, go to a Borders or Barnes & Noble and
grab
the current curve (I think it has the 15 most important people on the
cover.)
It is in the Gay Lesbian area of the newstand.
No phot, but small article.
Jennifer EMT-B
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From: LaSkA4u@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 14:17:35 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-25 10:37:26 EDT, you write:
<< Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ??? >>
i wanna see it cuz i luv drew barrymore and the movie looks so sweet!
oh and
of course cuz of mel too! =)
~joanna~
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
Subject: Another Kate thing...
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 14:25:10 EDT
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Also in the Internet Movie Databease it says that Kate is in Production
in New
Hampshire filming Johnny Hit and Run Pauline, which i like the name!!!
I am curious if anyone has heard anything else about this film ??? I am
interested in knowing if and when it may be released.
Jennifer EMT-B
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever After
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:16:22 -0300
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> << Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ??? >>
I would be surprised to hear from anyone here who doesn't want to see
it... ;)
By the way, Fox finally put the official Ever After site online. There's
not much about Mel there, but if anyone wants to check it out it's:
http://www.foxmovies.com/everafter.
:*
Juliana.
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From: Ald14hc@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:33:08 EDT
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Actually there is a sneak priemere this weekend here (in N.O. La., I
dont know
if thats everywhere) And I cant wait to see it... I LOVE Drew
Barrymore
(just as much as I love Kate), and when I found out that Melanie was in
it
too... well that just made it all the better!!
-Angie
<<
Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on
the
screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After with
drew
Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
Jennifer EMT-B
>>
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n849 --------------
001 - Ald14hc@aol.com - AP novels
002 - Kawiee@aol.com - Ever After Spoilers....
003 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Ever After Spoilers....
004 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
005 - wonderland <Netdance@worl - Re: Mel in Ever After
006 - StarScully@aol.com - Curve article...
007 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Curve article...
008 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Mel in Ever After
009 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - off: jeroen krabbe
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From: Ald14hc@aol.com
Subject: AP novels
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 16:47:49 EDT
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Alright, I finally made it to my local libarary to hook up with some of
Anne
Perrys novels. Of course, the one I felt the need to begin with was The
Carter Street Hangman, being that this was her first. Don't they go in
some
type of order? or they have the same characters in them, so I want to
be
introduced to them in the correct order. Anyway, I got as far as the
third
page, and I can't seem to get into it. I know that isn't giving it too
much
of a chance, and I will finish it if it kills me, but I was just
curious if
this is the one I should start with? Any advice from anyone who has
read her
novels? I love to read, however, I have never really read fiction
before
(outside of school), and am a lil hesitant. Has anyone read this one?
(TELL ME
ITS THE GREATEST BOOK IN THE WORLD AND ILL LOVE IT, LOL)
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From: Kawiee@aol.com
Subject: Ever After Spoilers....
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 17:02:32 EDT
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Hi there everyone! It's been a long time since I've had the chance to
chat. My
name is Carrie and I live in Boston yadda yadda. Anyhow...yesterday two
of my
friends and I wanted to see Saving Private Ryan at the Copley Square
theater.
When we arrived lo, and behold we found ourselves in line for Ever After
starring our dear friend Mel! It was quite a treat!
NOW
S
P
O
I
L
E
R
SPACE
Mel is such a wonderful actor in the remake of Cinderella. She manages
to
steal every scene with her charm as the less-than-mean sister. Angelica
Houston is a wicked wicked awesome-(Bha-ston accent?) stepmother. The
costumes
and characters make the entire movie a bunch of fun to watch. There is
an
excellent scene where she is dressed up for a masque ball in a horse
costume
and meets another horse at the dining table. The movie is littered with
modern
jokes and jive, but for the most part it's a fresh new take on a
timeless
classic. --There's several scenes where fireworks and other bloopers
run wild.
Please take the time this Summer to watch Ever After, you won't regret
it!
--Carrie
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ever After Spoilers....
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:28:36 -0700 (PDT)
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---Kawiee@aol.com wrote:
>
> Hi there everyone! It's been a long time since I've had the chance
to chat. My
> name is Carrie and I live in Boston yadda yadda. Anyhow...yesterday
two of my
> friends and I wanted to see Saving Private Ryan at the Copley Square
theater.
> When we arrived lo, and behold we found ourselves in line for Ever
After
> starring our dear friend Mel! It was quite a treat!
> NOW
> S
> P
> O
> I
> L
> E
> R
> SPACE
> Mel is such a wonderful actor in the remake of Cinderella. She
manages to
> steal every scene with her charm as the less-than-mean sister.
Angelica
> Houston is a wicked wicked awesome-(Bha-ston accent?) stepmother.
The costumes
> and characters make the entire movie a bunch of fun to watch. There
is an
> excellent scene where she is dressed up for a masque ball in a horse
costume
> and meets another horse at the dining table. The movie is littered
with modern
> jokes and jive, but for the most part it's a fresh new take on a
timeless
> classic. --There's several scenes where fireworks and other bloopers
run wild.
> Please take the time this Summer to watch Ever After, you won't
regret it!
> --Carrie
>
WOO-HOO i just saw it today! It was of so wonderful! her preformance
was wonderful! I loved her character!
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 20:34:40 -0700 (PDT)
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Yeah! I just saw it! Its a good movie! A must see! UGH! Seeing Melanie
in another movie is the greatest! Her character Jacqueline is perfect.
she is a step sister (nice) and she is oh so so beautiful!
---Ald14hc@aol.com wrote:
>
> Actually there is a sneak priemere this weekend here (in N.O. La., I
dont know
> if thats everywhere) And I cant wait to see it... I LOVE Drew
Barrymore
> (just as much as I love Kate), and when I found out that Melanie was
in it
> too... well that just made it all the better!!
> -Angie
> <<
> Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back
on the
> screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After
with drew
> Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
> Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
>
> Jennifer EMT-B
> >>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: wonderland <Netdance@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever After
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 23:05:59 -0700
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I'm seeing it most definately. still, i read in a magazine (i think it
was premiere) that it has a "sappy, gratifying ending", but then again,
it's a drew barrymore movie. I've missed melanie since HC. This is
fantastic.
-jen
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From: StarScully@aol.com
Subject: Curve article...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 00:31:49 EDT
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Since i'm so nice I decided to write the article that appears in the
July 1998
issue of Curve....
"Another actress who did the gay thing
before she became famous is finally returning
to her lesbo roots. Kate "Did You
Happen to Notice My Breasts At the
Oscars?" Winslet, whose first film was
the dykumentary Heavenly Creatures, is set to
star in the upcoming filmography of
Sapphic author Daphne Du Maurier.
The three of us who missed Titanic just might
get to see naked kate after all; rumor has
it that the screenplay includes a steamy sex
scene between Du Maurnier and her lover,
1930s actress Gertrude Lawrence. Du
Maurnier's biographer, who authored the
film, expressed considerable suprise upon
learning that Winslet is very well informed
on the subject of the novelist she will play.
But we all have certain historical figures
that pique our interest for one reason or
another, don't we?"
*janel*
*jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine* ~pattie smith~
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Curve article...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 02:31:05 -0300
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LOL!!
> the dykumentary Heavenly Creatures,
Sorry for the microscopic post, but I just couldn't miss that! Thanks
for the article, good to know that I must keep my eyes on this movie ;)
:*
Juliana.
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever After
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:42:53 +0200
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Okay, Okay...Mel was fantastic, obviously!
But I'm also kinda curious what Drew did, and what about Jeroen
Krabbé??? Can anyone tell me what kind of part he played, and how? I'll
try to keep up with the Dutch magazines in the near future to see if he
says anything about working with Mel!!
Take care
Marloes
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: off: jeroen krabbe
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 16:41:51 GMT
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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:42:53 +0200, lyric <dalyric@writeme.com> wrote:
>But I'm also kinda curious what Drew did, and what about Jeroen
>Krabbé??? Can anyone tell me what kind of part he played, and how? I'll
>try to keep up with the Dutch magazines in the near future to see if he
>says anything about working with Mel!!
Don't hold your breath. The guy is a jerk, every time i hear him talk
about the people he worked with he's dissing them, complaining that
none of the big stars want to talk to him, or they treat him badly
etc.
Ha, and he seems to always tell the story of tommy-lee jones standing
on his hand while shooting THE FUGITIVE. Tommy-lee did the right
thing.
The only 'actress' he seems to like is barbara streisand. Go figure.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n850 --------------
001 - Corrie Vierregger <suebri - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
002 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles
and The Loveliest Night...
003 - Amanda Smith <amanda@ospr - Parker and Hulme and Picnic at
Hanging Rock
004 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: off: jeroen krabbe
005 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles
and The Loveliest Night...
006 - "Marie Braden" <braden@ms - RE: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles
and The Loveliest Night...
007 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: OT: HK
008 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Random musings
009 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Mel in Ever After
010 - crystal <beckwith@Oswego. - Re: Random musings
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From: Corrie Vierregger <suebridehead@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 14:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
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I have been soooooo quiet on this list for many months. I finally feel
like getting back in discussion for some odd reason.
I for one am so looking forward to seeing Ever After.
1. cause Mel is in it of course and
2. I've always loved the story of cinderalla
I'm not big on Drew Barrymore though. Anybody like her? Thoughts? Okay
well byebye :)
})i({ Corrie*
---IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
>
> Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on
the
> screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After
with drew
> Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
>
> It should be cool to see her now since she is much older. She was
only 15,
> during HC, so she is now almost 20, if not already. Maybe even 21.
>
> Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
>
> Jennifer EMT-B
>
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:05:40 EDT
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Sono Andati is from Puccini's opera La Boheme. Mimi sings it to
Rodolfo close
to the end. She is dying, and she pretends to be asleep so everyone
will
leave and she can be alone with Rodolfo when she dies.
I have also been wondering which of Puccini's operas E lucevan le
stelle is
from, but haven't been able to find it. If anyone knows, please tell
us.
Ava :)
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From: Amanda Smith <amanda@ospreydesign.com>
Subject: Parker and Hulme and Picnic at Hanging Rock
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:26:32 -0400
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Okay, I've been getting Heavenly Digest for the past year or so and
haven't really been following closely but...
I know that the tome Parker and Hulme was mentioned here and I recently
finished reading it. I found the film to be much more sympathetic.
The
book was interesting but far from riveting. Any other comments?
(Again, sorry if this topic has come up hundreds of times...)
Also, today I was remembering Picnic at Hanging Rock and realized that
there were many similar themes in HC. I'm off to find my rotten copy
and
watch it again.
Amanda
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: Re: off: jeroen krabbe
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:58:28 +0200
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Jeroen wrote:
> The only 'actress' he seems to like is barbara streisand. Go figure.
I didn't think Krabbe had any problems with Laura Fraser in 'Left
Luggage'...Simcha was giving some problems though! I absolutely LOVED
that film and I think he did a pretty good job! (of course Laura and
also Simcha MADE the film) I think he's pretty good, maybe a difficult
person to work with...but he does the job well most of the time.
BTW: What's wrong with Barbara Streisand? She's played some beautiful
parts I think, I loved Yentl for example... And she has a beautiful
voice...at least that's what I think...
lyric
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
Subject: Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
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> I have also been wondering which of Puccini's operas E lucevan le
stelle is
> from, but haven't been able to find it. If anyone knows, please tell
us.
>
> Ava :)
Tosca.
:*
Juliana.
P.S.: Thanks for the score, Jane!
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From: "Marie Braden" <braden@msw0.attnet.or.jp>
Subject: RE: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:18:09 +0900
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> I have also been wondering which of Puccini's operas E lucevan le
> stelle is
> from, but haven't been able to find it. If anyone knows, please tell
us.
I *think* it's from Tosca as well....I just ordered Mario Lanza, the
Ultimate Collection, and it's on there...
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: OT: HK
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:39:51 EDT
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No, unfortunately there is not much info on HK. A company called
Stratosphere
Entertainment picked up the rights at Cannes, but have not announced a
release
date yet. Now the rumor is that HK will not be released until the new
year
1999. Which really sucks for all the Kate fans here.
Ava
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Random musings
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:42:21 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-25 05:10:41 EDT, you write:
<< Does anyone have a transcript of the 20/20 episode where AP talks
about
her past? >>
I didn't know she was on 20/20, but I saw her on a Discovery Channel
show
about women murderers. Also, what name does Pauline use now? I can't
remember.
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever After
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:45:23 EDT
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Yeah, I'm planning on seeing Ever After. But wasn't there another
movie that
Mel was in called Foreign Correspondants. What ever happened to that?
Ava :)
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From: crystal <beckwith@Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Random musings
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:50:11 -0400 (EDT)
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Pauline now goes by the name of Hilary Nathan, lives in England and
runs a
horse riding school for children.
Crystal
______________________________________________________________________________
*"We have decided how sad it is for other people that they cannot
appreciate our genious."-Pauline Parker*
*"Love is tender and knows no gender"-unknown*
*"I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!"-unknown*
_______________________________________________________________________________
On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-07-25 05:10:41 EDT, you write:
>
> << Does anyone have a transcript of the 20/20 episode where AP talks
about
> her past? >>
>
> I didn't know she was on 20/20, but I saw her on a Discovery Channel
show
> about women murderers. Also, what name does Pauline use now? I can't
> remember.
>
> Ava :)
>
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n851 --------------
001 - crystal <beckwith@Oswego. - Re: Mel in Ever After
002 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: New Kate Projects
003 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Another Kate thing...
004 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Mel in Ever After
005 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Curve article...
006 - Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@ - Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles
and The Loveliest Night...
007 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere turned
into Way OT
008 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere turned
into Way OT
009 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Re: Mel in Ever Aftere turned
into Way OT
010 - IrishEMT12@aol.com - Re: Curve article...
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From: crystal <beckwith@Oswego.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever After
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:53:12 -0400 (EDT)
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Foreign Correspondence is an independent film and is still looking for
backers, the last time I heard anything about it it didn't sound like it
would be released anytime soon. =(
Crystal
______________________________________________________________________________
*"We have decided how sad it is for other people that they cannot
appreciate our genious."-Pauline Parker*
*"Love is tender and knows no gender"-unknown*
*"I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it!"-unknown*
_______________________________________________________________________________
On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
> Yeah, I'm planning on seeing Ever After. But wasn't there another
movie that
> Mel was in called Foreign Correspondants. What ever happened to that?
>
> Ava :)
>
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: New Kate Projects
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 19:55:35 EDT
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I heard about this movie a while ago. Its supposed to be about the
novelist
Daphne de Maurier. Supposedly Kate is very interested in playing the
part of
Daphne. Part of the story is about Daphne's lesbian relationship with
actress
Gertrude Lawrence. I don't know what the production status of this
movie is,
or if it will get made at all. Supposedly Daphne de Maurier's family is
against the portrayl of Daphne as a lesbian. I hope Kate does get this
role;
de Maurier is a great writer!
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Another Kate thing...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:03:38 EDT
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I've heard about this one too. Johnny Hit and Run Pauline is being
produced
by Emma Thompson (yea!). I don't know who's starring in it, but Kate
only has
a small role. Also, it was originally announced to be filming in NH,
but I've
heard that its filming in England and Hollywood.
Does anyone know the plot of this movie?
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever After
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:49:50 EDT
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Is this an updated version of Cinderella, or just a remake? I mean,
does it
take place in the present day?
Ava :)
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Curve article...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:54:11 EDT
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Thanks! Good little info article, except for the few phrases offensive
to
Kate and HC fans. (Kate "Did you happen to notice my breasts at the
Oscars"
Winslet and "dykumentary") Do these people like Kate or not? It seems
from
this article that they don't like her very much.
Ava :)
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From: Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Puccini's Tosca and Biggles and The Loveliest Night...
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:42:08 +0800 (WST)
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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 PURPLEAVA@aol.com wrote:
>
> I have also been wondering which of Puccini's operas E lucevan le
stelle is
> from, but haven't been able to find it. If anyone knows, please tell
us.
>
Tosca, Act III, sung by Cavaradossi awaiting his death.
cheers
*Rana borovnia*
(hater extraordinaire of La Boheme)
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere turned into Way OT
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:13:21 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello!
I dont really like drew that much but I respect her the way I respect
anyone that lives there own life...We all diserve some credit because
we life a life I mean thats an art... does anyone understand how I
feel? I know my friends at hme sure dont... They want to kill people
juast because they are going out with some they like... or something
on that order.... I just say let it be... i especially get mad when my
friends lets take my friend Kelli for instance well she loves Nick
hexum from the band 311 i dont really care for the band they are
okay....but my point she calls the hotlines and she uses my computer
togo and look at the guestbooks for 311 and she gets pissed maybe
because someone says Oh I love him and hes all mine.... she turns
around and says well I dont think so hes mine! UGH that drives me up
the wall. I dont understand where she thinks that she can own him and
she can even have a chance with him... she cant fall in love with some
one close and when she does she freaks out.... fear of commitment I
say but she doesnt believe me.... if anyone knows what I am talking
about or is going through the same thing and has the same feelings I
do please contact me and we can talk about your passions and your
fears and your beliefs and I can share mine! Thank you for your time!
Love
Kate
---Corrie Vierregger wrote:
>
> I have been soooooo quiet on this list for many months. I finally feel
> like getting back in discussion for some odd reason.
>
> I for one am so looking forward to seeing Ever After.
> 1. cause Mel is in it of course and
> 2. I've always loved the story of cinderalla
>
> I'm not big on Drew Barrymore though. Anybody like her? Thoughts? Okay
> well byebye :)
>
> })i({ Corrie*
>
>
>
> ---IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on
> the
> > screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After
> with drew
> > Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
> >
> > It should be cool to see her now since she is much older. She was
> only 15,
> > during HC, so she is now almost 20, if not already. Maybe even 21.
> >
> > Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
> >
> > Jennifer EMT-B
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere turned into Way OT
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:14:54 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello!
I dont really like drew that much but I respect her the way I respect
anyone that lives there own life...We all diserve some credit because
we life a life I mean thats an art... does anyone understand how I
feel? I know my friends at hme sure dont... They want to kill people
juast because they are going out with some they like... or something
on that order.... I just say let it be... i especially get mad when my
friends lets take my friend Kelli for instance well she loves Nick
hexum from the band 311 i dont really care for the band they are
okay....but my point she calls the hotlines and she uses my computer
togo and look at the guestbooks for 311 and she gets pissed maybe
because someone says Oh I love him and hes all mine.... she turns
around and says well I dont think so hes mine! UGH that drives me up
the wall. I dont understand where she thinks that she can own him and
she can even have a chance with him... she cant fall in love with some
one close and when she does she freaks out.... fear of commitment I
say but she doesnt believe me.... if anyone knows what I am talking
about or is going through the same thing and has the same feelings I
do please contact me and we can talk about your passions and your
fears and your beliefs and I can share mine! Thank you for your time!
Love
Kate
---Corrie Vierregger wrote:
>
> I have been soooooo quiet on this list for many months. I finally feel
> like getting back in discussion for some odd reason.
>
> I for one am so looking forward to seeing Ever After.
> 1. cause Mel is in it of course and
> 2. I've always loved the story of cinderalla
>
> I'm not big on Drew Barrymore though. Anybody like her? Thoughts? Okay
> well byebye :)
>
> })i({ Corrie*
>
>
>
> ---IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on
> the
> > screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After
> with drew
> > Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
> >
> > It should be cool to see her now since she is much older. She was
> only 15,
> > during HC, so she is now almost 20, if not already. Maybe even 21.
> >
> > Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
> >
> > Jennifer EMT-B
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Mel in Ever Aftere turned into Way OT
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
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Hello!
I dont really like drew that much but I respect her the way I respect
anyone that lives there own life...We all diserve some credit because
we life a life I mean thats an art... does anyone understand how I
feel? I know my friends at hme sure dont... They want to kill people
juast because they are going out with some they like... or something
on that order.... I just say let it be... i especially get mad when my
friends lets take my friend Kelli for instance well she loves Nick
hexum from the band 311 i dont really care for the band they are
okay....but my point she calls the hotlines and she uses my computer
togo and look at the guestbooks for 311 and she gets pissed maybe
because someone says Oh I love him and hes all mine.... she turns
around and says well I dont think so hes mine! UGH that drives me up
the wall. I dont understand where she thinks that she can own him and
she can even have a chance with him... she cant fall in love with some
one close and when she does she freaks out.... fear of commitment I
say but she doesnt believe me.... if anyone knows what I am talking
about or is going through the same thing and has the same feelings I
do please contact me and we can talk about your passions and your
fears and your beliefs and I can share mine! Thank you for your time!
Love
Kate
---Corrie Vierregger wrote:
>
> I have been soooooo quiet on this list for many months. I finally feel
> like getting back in discussion for some odd reason.
>
> I for one am so looking forward to seeing Ever After.
> 1. cause Mel is in it of course and
> 2. I've always loved the story of cinderalla
>
> I'm not big on Drew Barrymore though. Anybody like her? Thoughts? Okay
> well byebye :)
>
> })i({ Corrie*
>
>
>
> ---IrishEMT12@aol.com wrote:
> >
> > Well, it is not too much longer before we get to see Melanie back on
> the
> > screen. for those who do not know, she is in the film Ever After
> with drew
> > Barrymore, which I believe opens August 7th.
> >
> > It should be cool to see her now since she is much older. She was
> only 15,
> > during HC, so she is now almost 20, if not already. Maybe even 21.
> >
> > Anyway, who is all planning on seeing it ?? Just for Mel ???
> >
> > Jennifer EMT-B
> >
>
> _________________________________________________________
> DO YOU YAHOO!?
> Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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From: IrishEMT12@aol.com
Subject: Re: Curve article...
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 23:34:25 EDT
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No trust me, fomr what I know of this magazine, they LOVE Kate!!!. I
think
they wre just being sarcastic.
Jennifer EMT-B
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-------------- BEGIN heavenly-c.v001.n852 --------------
001 - Kate McFarland <winslet31 - Sorry about the 3 messages (nomsg)
002 - Lela Kaunitz <lelak@heale - the sweet hereafter
003 - Salena <branson@xtra.co.n - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n850
004 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - left out....
005 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: off: jeroen krabbe
006 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: Parker and Hulme and Picnic
at Hanging Rock
007 - Tine Nielsen <tinen@dorit - HC video
008 - Tine Nielsen <tinen@dorit - Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n844
009 - Aileen Dayao <n9343700@ga - the ending of JUDE
010 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - HC Titles
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From: Kate McFarland <winslet311@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sorry about the 3 messages (nomsg)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1998 20:49:53 -0700 (PDT)
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==
Love Kate
X
**I take my Kate Winslet obsession to the extreme!**
**Like it or lump it** **Life is not a dress rehearsal**
**Hello!...Im a smoker!** **Cheer up! All the best people have bad
chest and bone diseases..... its all frightfully romantic!** ** I have
dedicated 4 years of my life to this woman and I dont intend to stop
now or ever!**
_________________________________________________________
DO YOU YAHOO!?
Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
--------------- MESSAGE heavenly-c.v001.n852.2 ---------------
From: Lela Kaunitz <lelak@healey.com.au>
Subject: the sweet hereafter
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 14:03:39 +1000
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In-Reply-To: <199807240010.RAA01382@lists1.best.com>
>Sarah Polley in The Sweet HereAfter
>Tilda Swinton in Orlando
Gods yes! She was INCREDIBLE.
And such a voice! The soundtrack is an essential....
Lela
who has a new movie to add to her all-time favourites
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From: Salena <branson@xtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Digest heavenly-c.v001.n850
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 17:19:05 +1200
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References: <199807262351.QAA13741@lists1.best.com>
How do I get off this mailing list?
I just don't have the time to keep up with it and I feel a bit left out
since I'm not a lesbian. Please tell.
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
Subject: left out....
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:55:21 +0200
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<199807270521.WAA15895@lists1.best.com>
Salena wrote:
> How do I get off this mailing list?
Sorry I can't help you with this...I have absolutely no idea, try to
look up the page where you subscribed. It's supposed to be there!
> I just don't have the time to keep up with it and I feel a bit
> left out since I'm not a lesbian. Please tell.
Now this is conpletely new to me! If you don't have time, okay..but
unsubscribing because you feel a bit left out? I think that none of the
people on this list was trying to leave people out... I'm sorry if I
made you feel that way.
Take care
lyric
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: off: jeroen krabbe
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:32:25 GMT
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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 22:58:28 +0200, lyric <dalyric@writeme.com> wrote:
>BTW: What's wrong with Barbara Streisand? She's played some beautiful
I hate her. I just do. She can't direct yet she thinks she's the
most brilliant director on the face of the earth. And her singing
irritates me. Just thinking about her makes my skin crawl. Ugh.
She should die.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: Parker and Hulme and Picnic at Hanging Rock
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:32:25 GMT
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On Sun, 26 Jul 1998 18:26:32 -0400, Amanda Smith
<amanda@ospreydesign.com> wrote:
>Also, today I was remembering Picnic at Hanging Rock and realized
that
>there were many similar themes in HC. I'm off to find my rotten copy
and
>watch it again.
I *love* PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK. And yes i agree that there are some
similarities with HC. Especially the humming chorus segment of HC.
I posted this to the list a while ago:
I'm sure the fans of PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK already know this, but
this wonderful film will be re-released in the theaters this year, and
criterion will release it on laserdisc. So no need to get that
expensive japanese import anymore. There is also a rumour that the
disc will feature a commentary track by peter weir. No news of a dvd
though :(
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: Tine Nielsen <tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk>
Subject: HC video
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:37:47 +0200
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Hey guys and creatures and individuals etc....
Just wanted to pop by and say hello, been lurking for a while now during
the summer.
The HC video has finally been released here under the title of "Black
Angels" just like it was called in Sweden. I have been wondering a bit
at
the title since it was released in cinemas as Angel My Angel.
The cover is the same as the British video cover only slightly lighter
and
with Danish writings on it obviously and Kate's name plastered all over
it,
she's the obvious selling point and they've been sure to write too that
she
was nominated for Titanic too. I am very pleased that they've finally
released it particularly because all of Peter Jackson's other films have
been released to buy for quite a while now!!!
Haven't seen the video yet but I assume that it's the British cut in
widescreen, but I'll let y'all know later. Man I need my HC fix soon :)
Thought I'd start a big of a topic of discussion. I have for some time
been
discussing Sue and Jude with a friend of mine. She thinks that they're
both
hoity-toity, stuck up and too proud for their own good and therefore
deserve the treatment they're given, while I can't help defend their
good
points even though I am aware that they both possess bad points too.
How do
you guys see Sue and Jude ?
Cheers,
*Passer borovnius var. hafniensis*
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"When everything gets tough, denials all we have"
tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk/bridehead@hotmail.com
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Hi Creatures,
Jeroen Wrote:
>It's kate's best work, absolutely. It's a shame so few people know
>about this gem. F**k the oscars, but it should have at least won an
>award for best foreign film. Was it even nominated?
No I don't think so. Most of the people I've shown it to have loved it.
I
only know two people who absolutely hate it. Their misfortune!! I guess
it's a love it or hate it film. I personally love it.
>My only complaints are the pig killing scene and the fact that it
>doesn't follow the book all the way through.
I think it's alright that it doesn't strictly follow the book, I think
particularly towards the end it would have tired the audience too much,
and
I like the way the film ends too. Some have suggested that it's an open
ending but I see it as very definitive. Of course there is a
possibility of
a Hollywood sequel where Sue turns around right after she's turned the
corner and rushes back into Jude's arms declaring that she'll give up
her
"hard-to-get" games and be a nice little housewife for him from now on
;)
>My favorite scenes are the scene with jude and sue on the bridge and
>the university parade.
I like the "you're being rather confrontational" scene and also the
bridge
scene that's lovely. There are so many memorable scenes in this film
that I
hardly know where to begin. Eccleston is perfect as Jude, as Kate is
perfect as Sue. Liam Cunningham is also a very worthy Phillotson.
>And the music. God it's so beautiful.
´
No argument there.
>You'll be glad to know that the beautiful opening scenes with the
>younger jude are actually filmed in b&w.
Some friends I went to see it with actually threatened to leave when
they
thought it was entirely in b/w.
Cheers,
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"When everything gets tough, denials all we have"
tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk/bridehead@hotmail.com
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From: Aileen Dayao <n9343700@garbo.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Subject: the ending of JUDE
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 19:29:55 +1000 (EST)
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Hi =))) I wondered if someone could let meeh know the difference between
the ending in the movie and that in the book? I've seen the movie,
haven't
had a chance to read the book yet..
__o take care- justmeeh.. Aileen.
_`\<,_ mailto:n9343700@scholar.nepean.uws.edu.au
. . . . (*)/ (*)
http://www.cit.nepean.uws.edu.au/~adayao/index.html
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Hiya,
I was most suprised to find
out from Tine that:
"The HC video has finally been
released here under the title
of "Black
Angels" just like it was
called in Sweden. I have been
wondering a bit at
the title since it was
released in cinemas as Angel
My Angel."
It never occurred to me that
the title was changed in
different countries. Is this
change down to translation ?
Does anyone else know of it
being called anything else
apart from Heavenly Creatures.
What was the actual title in
French release? I am
intrigued. Also, is there a
Web sight with all the
different posters of HC, I
would like to see these.
Stephen.
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001 - Stephen Bull <sybull@line - HC Titles v2.0
002 - "Minh Vu Pham" <phamminh@ - Re: Parker and Hulme and Picnic
at Hanging Rock
003 - mailcall <mailcall@bluema - Re: Parker and Hulme and Picnic
at Hanging Rock
004 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: HC Titles
005 - LuvleeNine@aol.com - Re: HC Titles
006 - Juliana Bastos <jbastos@u - Re: HC Titles
007 - PURPLEAVA@aol.com - Re: Curve article...
008 - "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@v - Re: HC Titles v2.0
009 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - she should die?
010 - Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@ - Worst ...
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Hiya,
Whilst I was thinking about my
last posting (see "HC
Titles"), it suddenly occurred
to me, was "Heavenly
Creatures" the only choice for
the title? Jean, do you know
if Peter and Fran toyed around
with any other titles?
This interests me.
Stephen
" 'Tis indeed a miracle, one
must feel,
That two such heavenly
creatures are real."
Pauline Yvonne Parker, 1953
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Hiya,
<P>Whilst I was thinking about my last posting (see "HC Titles"), it
suddenly
occurred to me, was "Heavenly Creatures" the only choice for the title?
Jean, do you know if Peter and Fran toyed around with any other titles?
<P>This interests me.
<P>Stephen
<P>" 'Tis indeed a miracle, one must feel,
<BR>That two such heavenly creatures are real."
<BR><I>Pauline Yvonne Parker, 1953</I></HTML>
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From: "Minh Vu Pham" <phamminh@pilot.msu.edu>
Subject: Re: Parker and Hulme and Picnic at Hanging Rock
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:23:46 -0400 (EDT)
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In-Reply-To: <199807270835.BAA13330@lists1.best.com> from "Jeroen" at
Jul 27, 98 08:32:25 am
> I posted this to the list a while ago:
>
> I'm sure the fans of PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK already know this, but
> this wonderful film will be re-released in the theaters this year, and
> criterion will release it on laserdisc. So no need to get that
> expensive japanese import anymore. There is also a rumour that the
> disc will feature a commentary track by peter weir. No news of a dvd
> though.
I read that PAHR will be released on DVD along with the ld. I read
this from a
a DVD website. Also, from the positive stuff I've been hearing about
it on
this list, I'm going to try to catch it during it's re-release in
Detroit.
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Subject: Re: Parker and Hulme and Picnic at Hanging Rock
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 13:17:53 -0500 (EST)
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> I read that PAHR will be released on DVD along with the ld. I read
this from a
> a DVD website. Also, from the positive stuff I've been hearing about
it on
Dvd! Dvd! Pahr Hc ld!
Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!
(then doing her best juliet returning to her seat after reading "The
Role
of the Royal Family Today")
--==** melanthe alexian **==--
...she just slipped away...
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: HC Titles
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 16:26:40 +0100, Stephen Bull <sybull@lineone.net>
wrote:
>What was the actual title in
>French release? I am
On my french poster it says CREATURES CELESTES.
>intrigued. Also, is there a
>Web sight with all the
>different posters of HC, I
I will put some pics online as soon as i've decided which digital
camera i'm going to get. I have 6 different HC posters from 5
different countries.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: LuvleeNine@aol.com
Subject: Re: HC Titles
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 15:50:20 EDT
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In a message dated 7/27/98 12:43:52 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
nbk94@xs4all.nl writes:
<< Also, is there a
>Web sight with all the
>different posters of HC >>
You might want to try the IMDB (Internet Movie Data Base). This has
EVERYTHING you could possibly want to know on a movie.. i do recall
that when
i went to check out Heavenly Creatures, they had a section for all the
different posters.
Good luck.
*LUV9* Nasrin.
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From: Juliana Bastos <jbastos@usp.br>
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> It never occurred to me that
> the title was changed in
> different countries. Is this
> change down to translation ?
> Does anyone else know of it
> being called anything else
> apart from Heavenly Creatures.
In Brazil: "Almas Gemeas", soul mates.
:*
Juliana.
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From: PURPLEAVA@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1998 18:13:53 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-26 23:43:39 EDT, you write:
<< No trust me, fomr what I know of this magazine, they LOVE Kate!!!.
I think
they wre just being sarcastic.
Jennifer EMT-B
>>
Good, we can't have any Kate-hating mags out there!
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From: "E. Jean Guerin" <orson@videotron.ca>
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Stephen Bull wrote:
>Jean, do you know
>if Peter and Fran toyed around
>with any other titles?
Not to my knowledge.
(:^)]
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From: lyric <dalyric@writeme.com>
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Jeroen wrote:
> She should die.
Geeezzz...you wish her dead just because you don't like her work? Who
else is in your death-row? (-:
Since we had the 'best'-list already...what about the 'worst'-list??
Actors, actresses, films?
lyric
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Worst ...
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On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, lyric wrote:
>
> Since we had the 'best'-list already...what about the 'worst'-list??
> Actors, actresses, films?
Second worst opera: La Boheme.
Worst: Mignon, by Ambroise Thomas. Don't even ask.
cheers
*Rana borovnia*
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001 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - sue and jude
002 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - jude
003 - nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen) - Re: she should die?
004 - "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@na - Why in the world...
005 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: Why in the world...
006 - lyric <dalyric@writeme.co - Re: she should die?
007 - Aileen Dayao <n9343700@ga - not fave movies etc...
008 - SHERIMER@aol.com - Re: Worst ...
009 - Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@ - OT: Re: Worst ...opera
010 - "Lawrence Ladao" <kismet@ - HC soundtrack, hard to get
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: sue and jude
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 10:37:47 +0200, Tine Nielsen
<tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk> wrote:
>Thought I'd start a big of a topic of discussion. I have for some time
been
>discussing Sue and Jude with a friend of mine. She thinks that they're
both
>hoity-toity, stuck up and too proud for their own good and therefore
>deserve the treatment they're given, while I can't help defend their
good
>points even though I am aware that they both possess bad points too.
How do
>you guys see Sue and Jude ?
I love 'm. I love sue's honesty, and jude's tragedy. He really is a
natural born looser, yet he maintains his dignity and keeps trying.
Actually i see a lot of myself in sue, sometimes being a bit too
honest for my own good telling people what i really think instead of
what they want to hear.
The sue in the book is a lot less sympathetic, but i think amini made
the right decision when he decided to make her a little more, erm,
likeable.
God i love this film.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: jude
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:39:51 GMT
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On Mon, 27 Jul 1998 11:15:07 +0200, Tine Nielsen
<tinen@dorit.ihi.ku.dk> wrote:
>>My favorite scenes are the scene with jude and sue on the bridge and
>>the university parade.
>
>I like the "you're being rather confrontational" scene and also the
bridge
>scene that's lovely. There are so many memorable scenes in this film
that I
OK, i admit it, the whole movie is my favorite scene. They shouldn't
have killed the pig though.
>hardly know where to begin. Eccleston is perfect as Jude, as Kate is
>perfect as Sue. Liam Cunningham is also a very worthy Phillotson.
The whole cast is bloody perfect. Even the little boy who plays
jude's son. I love the scene where's he's holding the baby. And what
about the scene with the two kids and arabella in the tent?
Brilliant.
BTW i was pleasantly surprised when i learned liam cunningham was in A
LITTLE PRINCESS.
And talking about little kids, did anybody here see PONETTE? I
watched it last week, it's really incredible.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: nbk94@xs4all.nl (Jeroen)
Subject: Re: she should die?
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 08:39:50 GMT
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On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 01:26:16 +0200, lyric <dalyric@writeme.com> wrote:
>Jeroen wrote:
>
>> She should die.
>
>Geeezzz...you wish her dead just because you don't like her work? Who
>else is in your death-row? (-:
Uhuh, don't get me started :)
Actually i was just having a little fun, you know, pulling the leg of
all the people on this list who have accused me of being a serial
killer (technically mass-murderer) for liking NBK.
Besides wasn't it oscar wilde who said that vegetarians are the most
violent people? Well i've proven him right.
>Since we had the 'best'-list already...what about the 'worst'-list??
>Actors, actresses, films?
Kevin costner, jim carrey, jack nicholson, meryl streep, glenn close,
van damme, schwarzeneger, tom cruise, robin williams and demi moore
are at the top of my shit list. As for worst movies i nominate every
film with one of the above actors/actresses except for JFK and HAMLET
which of course are masterpieces. Some more hideous movies: THE NET,
GRUMPY OLD MEN, TITANIC, all disaster and AIRPORT type movies,
PASSENGER 57, ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, AGE OF INNOCENCE (gonna
give that one another try though, i'm sure i've missed something), THE
VANISHING (the US remake, the original is brilliant), THE PAPER and
last but not least PRETTY WOMAN.
Cheers,
jeroen.
--
Jeroen - The Netherlands - www.xs4all.nl/~nbk94 - icq #15894278
All the best people have bad chests and bone diseases.
It's all frightfully romantic! - Heavenly Creatures
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From: "BRANDI SMITH"<brsmith@nass.usda.gov>
Subject: Why in the world...
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 98 08:01:15 -0500
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Why are we starting a 'hate' list? All it's going to
accomplish
is pissing off other members on this list. You're entitled to
your opinions and if the so-called hated
actor/actress/movie/opera/etc. etc. etc. comes up, THEN talk
about it, but let's not start a hate list. Isn't there enough
hate in the world? (Read that last sentence with really weepy
violin music playing in the background)
-Brandi^^
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BRANDI SMITH wrote:
>
> Why are we starting a 'hate' list? All it's going to
accomplish
> is pissing off other members on this list. You're entitled
to
> your opinions and if the so-called hated
> actor/actress/movie/opera/etc. etc. etc. comes up, THEN talk
> about it, but let's not start a hate list. Isn't there
enough
> hate in the world? (Read that last sentence with really
weepy
> violin music playing in the background)
*Puts Vanessa Mae in the cd-player, looks for a weepy track and starts
reading*
Okay, here it goes:
I can't remember ever using the word 'hate'...I just said 'worst'. And I
was not trying to piss of other people, but just to give an opinion
about films. If anyone disagrees, that's okay...No hate involved!!!
Sorry if you got me wrong on that!
And I'm sure Jeroen doesn't hate me for liking Barbra Streisand, Right
Jeroen??? *s*
Marloes
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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Subject: Re: she should die?
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Jeroen wrote:
> Actually i was just having a little fun, you know, pulling the leg of
> all the people on this list who have accused me of being a serial
> killer (technically mass-murderer) for liking NBK.
A Serial Killer??? In Holland...woehaa!! I hope you're not planning to
kill everyone that does like Streisand...LOL No, serious, I love NBK as
well, it's a brilliant film!!
> Besides wasn't it oscar wilde who said that vegetarians are the most
> violent people? Well i've proven him right.
Amen! All hail Mr Wilde!!! (-: No serious, when did he say that? I have
a lot of his statements somewhere, but I can't remember ever seeing this
one. In the Preface of 'The Picture of Dorian Grey' he also has a lot of
art statements, but no other ones...I'd love to know where you got that
one from!
I don't agree with that one btw, I don't see what violence has to do
with being vegetarian....
Okay, here comes _my_ crap-list, had to do some digging because I almost
never watch a film if I think it sux...and if I do and it's REALLY bad,
I just ban it from my memory....*smiles*
Brandi: Don't get me wrong, this is not a hate-list...just some films
that I didn't like...not because of one actor/actress...just because of
the film! If anyone disagrees, that's cool of course! Imagine everyone
would like the same films...that would be pretty boring...
Anyway, I can only think of a few right now: Disclosure, The Game (I
repeat: NOT because of one actor *S*...okay Michael Douglas isn't my
favorite I must say), A Kiss Before Dying (great book btw), The Fan
Take care
Marloes
--
It's my belief that we all have the need to feel special, and it's this
need that can bring out the best in us, yet the worst in us.
- Janet, Velvet Rope
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From: Aileen Dayao <n9343700@garbo.nepean.uws.edu.au>
Subject: not fave movies etc...
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 08:52:39 +1000 (EST)
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On Tue, 28 Jul 1998, Jeroen wrote:
> >Since we had the 'best'-list already...what about the 'worst'-list??
> >Actors, actresses, films?
>
> Kevin costner, jim carrey, jack nicholson, meryl streep, glenn close,
> van damme, schwarzeneger, tom cruise, robin williams and demi moore
> are at the top of my shit list. As for worst movies i nominate every
of the above actors you mention, i agree with you on Jim Carrey, Jack
Nicholson, Van Damme (special *ugh*** =)).....
i don't really think of who i don't like as actors, but my list would
easily include Steven Seagal, ....
> film with one of the above actors/actresses except for JFK and HAMLET
which Hamlet are you referring to? the recent Kenneth Branagh one? i
have
this on tape, still haven't had a chance to watch it....
i don't think they're masterpieces, but i did like NO WAY OUT and THE
UNTOUCHABLES...
> which of course are masterpieces. Some more hideous movies: THE NET,
> GRUMPY OLD MEN, TITANIC, all disaster and AIRPORT type movies,
> PASSENGER 57, ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA, AGE OF INNOCENCE (gonna
> give that one another try though, i'm sure i've missed something), THE
> VANISHING (the US remake, the original is brilliant), THE PAPER and
> last but not least PRETTY WOMAN.
i agree with THE NET, AGE OF INNOCENCE and THE PAPER...
a few others i'd consider in the worst films would be THE FLINTSTONES,
most other films like this which are remakes of old sitcoms/cartoons,
the
recent SABRINA movie - despite Harrison Ford been in the movie, the
original with Audrey Hepburn was great IMHO...
tons more i can'think of =)))
Carter's Dreams __o take care- justmeeh.. Aileen.
Keeper _`\<,_ mailto:n9343700@scholar.nepean.uws.edu.au
. . . . (*)/ (*)
http://www.cit.nepean.uws.edu.au/~adayao/index.html
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From: SHERIMER@aol.com
Subject: Re: Worst ...
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 22:18:38 EDT
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In a message dated 98-07-28 02:36:52 EDT, you write:
<< Second worst opera: La Boheme >>
How can you think La Boheme is bad, it's beautiful and always will be.
It's my
favorite opera.
--Steve
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From: Sandra Bowdler <sbowdler@cyllene.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: OT: Re: Worst ...opera
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1998 13:52:50 +0800 (WST)
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On Tue, 28 Jul 1998 SHERIMER@aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 98-07-28 02:36:52 EDT, you write:
>
> << Second worst opera: La Boheme >>
>
> How can you think La Boheme is bad, it's beautiful and always will
be. It's my
> favorite opera.
>
Let's see now. Bourgeois layabout playing at being a poet chats up
working class girl, she gets sick (no doubt due to bad diet and
insufficient heating), and he chucks her out because she'll be a drag on
his important poetry writing. Then she dies. No, not my idea of
beautiful.
cheers
*Rana borovnia*
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From: "Lawrence Ladao" <kismet@san.rr.com>
Subject: HC soundtrack, hard to get
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1998 23:18:25 -0700
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Has anybody had any luck in finding/purchasing the
HC soundtrack lately? I put an order into Amazon
3 WEEKS ago but just got a mail message back
saying that the "title is in fact not available at this
time". Before that I tried Tower Records, but they
botched the order. After waiting TWO MONTHS, I get
the call from them telling me my order had come in.
I go to pick it up and it turns out to be the wrong friggin
item.
I hope to get my hands on this soundtrack before the
turn of the century. Can someone please point me to
a good source.
-Lawrence
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