On 12 Nov 1998, Citraketu dasa wrote:

> Hare Krsna!

> pamho! agtsp!

> I don't believe the matter of determining an individual's
> varna and asrama to be a simple matter.

> Your servant in Krsna consciousness,

> Citraketu dasa

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Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 16 pg. 265 & 266, October 16, 1975, Johannesburg:

Harikesa: No, I was just wondering how one would be able to see who was acting in a certain way unless they were first engaged in something. They have to be doing some activity...

Prabhupada: No, no.

Harikesa: So you can see what kind of quality they have.

Prabhupada: No, no. Take everyone is rascal, then train them. That is wanted. Take everyone as rascal. There is no question that here is intelligent man, here is rascal, here is the... No. First of all take them all as rascals and train them. That is wanted. That is wanted now. At the present moment the whole world is full of rascals. Now, if they take to Krsna consciousness, select amongst them. Just like I am training you. You are brahmana by training. So one who is prepared to be trained as brahmana classify him in the brahmana. One is trained up as ksatriya, classify him. In this way catur-varnyam maya srs...

Harikesa: And that ksatriya would engage everyone basically as sudra. Then...

Prabhupada: No, no, no. You pick up... You take the whole mass of people as sudra. Then...

Harikesa: Pick out.

Prabhupada: Pick out. And rest who is neither brahmana, nor ksatriya, nor vaisya, then he is sudra. That's all. Very easy thing.

Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 14 pg. 281:

Mrs. Wax: Who will decide what the propensities are Srila Prabhupada?

Jayatirtha: Who is to decide whether a person is first class, if they are ksatriya or vaisya?

Srila Prabhupada: The book of knowledge. You can read Bhagavad-gita.

Srimad-Bhagavatam [Canto 3, Ch. 22 TEXT 7]

PURPORT

A bona fide spiritual master knows the particular nature of a man...

Conversations With Srila Prabhupada Vol. 8 pg. 341:

Pancadravida: How do you teach a varnasrama-college? In varnasrama-college if somebody comes in, they say I want to be a ksatriya or I want to be a vaisya... Is it like that?

Srila Prabhupada: No. That will be tested by the teachers, what for he is fit. He will be test by the guru.

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Dear Prabhus

Please accept my respectful obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Have I committed any offenses,
taken any quotes out of context,
made any mistakes, and/or
done anything I shouldn't have?
If so, I'm sorry.

Aspiring to be the sincere
servant of the servant,

Yours Truly,
Gauranga Prema Dasa

Hare Krsna

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